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| Identifier: | 98ISLAMABAD7870 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 98ISLAMABAD7870 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Islamabad |
| Created: | 1998-10-20 10:25:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PGOV PTER MNUC ENRG PK |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
P 201025Z OCT 98 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 0980 INFO AMCONSUL KARACHI AMCONSUL PESHAWAR AMEMBASSY NEW DELHI
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISLAMABAD 007870 E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/19/08 TAGS: PGOV, PTER, MNUC, ENRG, PK SUBJECT: SHAHBAZ SHARIF ON NUCLEAR ISSUES, ISLAMIZATION AND POWER REF: LAHORE 500 CLASSIFIED BY LAHORE PRINCIPAL OFFICER GEOFFREY PYATT, REASON 1.5 (D) THIS IS LAHORE 572 1. (C) SUMMARY. MEETING OCTOBER 14 WITH VISITING AMBASSADOR MILAM, PUNJAB CHIEF MINISTER SHAHBAZ SHARIF EMPHASIZED HIS BROTHER'S COMMITMENT TO FINDING COMMON GROUND WITH THE UNITED STATES ON PROLIFERATION ISSUES, JUSTIFIED THE RECENT REDUCTION OF ELECTRICITY TARIFFS AS A POLITICAL IMPERATIVE, AND DEFENDED THE GOVERNMENT'S ISLAMIZATION AMENDMENT AS A POLITICAL TACTIC THAT WOULD NOT ALTER PAKISTAN'S HISTORICALLY MODERATE COURSE. SHAHBAZ RECALLED HIS MID-AUGUST MEETINGS WITH DEPUTY SECRETARY TALBOTT AND OTHER OFFICIALS IN WASHINGTON, AND CLAIMED THAT GOVERNMENT ACTIONS SINCE THEN HAVE FOLLOWED PRECISELY THE ROADMAP WHICH HE HAD DISCUSSED. HE PROMISED IMMEDIATE PROGRESS ON EXPORT CONTROLS BUT INDICATED THAT FURTHER MOVEMENT TOWARDS A FISSILE MATERIAL CUT-OFF WOULD REQUIRE STEPS TO REDRESS THE INHERENT IMBALANCE OF THE INDO-PAK SECURITY RELATIONSHIP. IN A BRIEF ONE-ON-ONE, THE AMBASSADOR RAISED THE OSAMA BIN LADEN ISSUE IN AFGHANISTAN, URGED SHAHBAZ TO SPEAK TO THE PM ABOUT INCREASING GOP EFFORTS TO PERSUADE THE TALEBAN TO EXPEL OBL AND ABOUT THE FOREIGN MINISTRY'S RELUCTANCE TO ALLOW THE AMBASSADOR TO ENGAGE THE PM ON AFGHANISTAN. SHAHBAZ AGREED TO TALK TO THE PM. END SUMMARY. THE WAY FORWARD ON NON-PROLIFERATION ------------------------------------ 2. (C) AFTER A FOREIGN MINISTRY NOTETAKER WAS ESCORTED OUT OF THE MEETING, SHAHBAZ SPOKE CANDIDLY AND AT LENGTH ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT'S PRIORITIES AND ITS HOPES FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP. WE CAN'T CHANGE HISTORY, THE CHIEF MINISTER LAMENTED, BUT CLEARLY WE NEED TO GET BACK ON COURSE TO FOCUS ON PAKISTAN'S URGENT SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC NEEDS. 3. (C) RECALLING HIS LATE SUMMER MEETINGS IN WASHINGTON, SHAHBAZ ARGUED THAT GOP ACTIONS SINCE THEN HAVE FOLLOWED PRECISELY THE "ROAD MAP" THAT HE HAD DISCUSSED WITH DEPUTY SECRETARY TALBOTT. WE RECOGNIZE THERE IS MORE FOR US TO DO, SHAHBAZ CONTINUED. SOME STEPS, SUCH AS ENHANCING EXPORT CONTROLS, WE WOULD TAKE EVEN WITHOUT YOUR PRESSURE. THIS IS NO PROBLEM AT ALL. OTHER STEPS, INCLUDING THE FISSILE MATERIAL CUTOFF, REQUIRE THAT WE FIRST DETERMINE HOW TO ACHIEVE MINIMUM DETERRENCE VIS-A-VIS INDIA. WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT INDIA IS THE AGGRESSOR WHICH STARTED THE CYCLE OF NUCLEAR TESTING. IT FRUSTRATES US, SHAHBAZ ADDED, THAT FRIENDS LIKE THE UNITED STATES SOMETIMES APPEAR TO OVERLOOK THIS BASIC FACT. WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING IN GENEVA, BUT UNCONDITIONAL PAKISTANI ADHERENCE TO THE FMCT IS A PROBLEM. WE MUST FIND A WAY TO ACCOUNT FOR STOCKPILES AND BRING SOME FORM OF PARITY TO OUR SECURITY RELATIONSHIP WITH INDIA, SHAHBAZ CONCLUDED. 4. (C) THE UNITED STATES UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE ARE THREE PARTNERS IN THESE DELIBERATIONS, AMBASSADOR MILAM RESPONDED. BUT WE THINK FMCT IS THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD. BOTH PAKISTAN AND INDIA NEED TO BRING TRANSPARENCY TO THEIR NUCLEAR POLICIES. SHAHBAZ AGAIN CAME BACK TO THE POLITICS OF THE NON-PROLIFERATION DEBATE. NAWAZ SHARIF MUST BE SEEN TO BE DEFENDING PAKISTAN'S SUPREME NATIONAL INTERESTS. FOR THAT REASON, SHAHBAZ ARGUED, WHATEVER STEPS ARE REQUIRED AND WHATEVER INDUCEMENTS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY PROVIDES MUST BE VIEWED AS EQUITABLE AND FAIR. SOUTH ASIA'S KOSOVO ------------------- 5. (C) SHAHBAZ TURNED TO THE BROADER ISSUE OF INDO-PAK RELATIONS, NOTING THAT "WE'D BE LIVING IN A FOOLS PARADISE" TO SEEK PROGRESS ON NON-PROLIFERATION WHILE IGNORING THE CONFRONTATION OVER KASHMIR. THIS WAS NOT WHAT INDIA AND PAKISTAN WERE MEANT TO BE, SHAHBAZ CONTINUED, FIGHTING PROXY WARS AND SQUANDERING EACH OTHER'S ECONOMIC RESOURCES. LOOK AT TRADE. THINK HOW MUCH WE COULD SAVE IF PAKISTAN WERE ABLE TO BUY COAL FROM INDIAN MINES INSTEAD OF IMPORTING IT FROM THE AMERICAS. BUT THAT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE UNDER PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES. WE CAN MOVE THE RELATIONSHIP TO A NEW LEVEL, BUT WE NEED YOU TO THROW YOUR WEIGHT BEHIND A SETTLEMENT OF THE KASHMIR DISPUTE. AS YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE CONFLICT IN KOSOVO, THE UNITED STATES MUST BRING IT'S AUTHORITY TO BEAR ON THE KASHMIR DISPUTE. THE POWER IMBROGLIO ------------------- 6. (C) AMBASSADOR MILAM RAISED THE ISSUE OF INDEPENDENT POWER PROVIDERS (IPP'S), NOTING OUR PUZZLEMENT ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN CONSUMER ELECTRICITY RATES COMING IN THE MIDST OF DIFFICULT NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE IMF. WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REDUCE ELECTRICITY TARIFFS, SHAHBAZ INSISTED. FROM KHYBER TO KARACHI, PAKISTANIS WERE CLAMORING FOR RELIEF FROM UTILITY BILLS THAT WERE CONSUMING A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THEIR DISPOSABLE INCOMES. PEOPLE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS. THIS GOVERNMENT HAS NO INTENTION OF REVERSING THE MARKET-ORIENTED DIRECTION THAT THE PRIME MINISTER SET IN HIS FIRST MONTHS; THAT'S NOT EVEN AN PEOPLE A SENSE OF HOPE. THE FIFTEENTH AMENDMENT ----------------------- 7. (U) AS THE CONVERSATION DREW TO A CLOSE, THE CHIEF MINISTER RAISED THE GOVERNMENT'S CONTROVERSIAL CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ON ISLAMIZATION. YOU HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP, SO I WILL, SHAHBAZ NOTED. THERE SHOULD BE NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS GOVERNMENT'S WESTERN, LIBERAL ORIENTATION. THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN WEARING ALL MY OLD WESTERN BUSINESS SUITS, HE JOKED, INSTEAD OF THE SHALWAR THAT MOST PAKISTANI POLITICIANS TREAT AS THEIR UNIFORM. SHAHBAZ ALSO DREW ATTENTION HIS OCTOBER 14 SPEECH AT A WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION MEETING IN LAHORE WHERE HE HIGHLIGHTED THE ROLE THAT FEMALE MANAGERS, ADMINISTRATORS AND SCIENTISTS MUST PLAY IN PAKISTAN'S FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. CAN WE THINK OF DEVELOPMENT INVOLVING WOMEN WHO WEAR A VEIL OR SIT AT HOME, SHAHBAZ ASKED IN HIS SPEECH. IT'S SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE. 8. (U) THERE SHOULD BE NO MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT OUR REASONS FOR ADVANCING THE 15TH AMENDMENT, SHAHBAZ CONTINUED. AFTER WESTERN PRESSURE ON CTBT AND THE AIR STRIKES ON AFGHANISTAN, THE RELIGIOUS PARTIES WERE RIDING HIGH. BUT THIS ONE ACTION OF INTRODUCING THE ISLAMIZATION AMENDMENT HAS TAKEN THE WIND OUT OF THEIR SAILS. 9. (C) IN A BRIEF ONE-ON-ONE THE AMBASSADOR MENTIONED HIS INCREASING PREOCCUPATION WITH AFGHANISTAN, AND ESPECIALLY THE ISSUE OF THE TALEBAN HARBORING OSAMA BIN LADEN. THIS IS A VERY BIG ISSUE TO THE U.S., AND OUR SENSE IS THAT, PERHAPS, WITH ADDED PUSH THE U.S., PAKISTAN AND SAUDI ARABIA CAN PERSUADE THE TALEBAN TO EXPEL OBL. WE NEED A STRONGER PUSH ON THIS BY THE GOP. THE AMBASSADOR HAD TRIED TO SEE THE PM ON THIS BUT WAS BEING SCREENED OFF BY THE FOREIGN MINISTRY. THE AMBASSADOR ASKED SHAHBAZ TO TALK TO THE PM ABOUT THIS. THE CHIEF MINISTER SAID HE WOULD. COMMENT ------- 10. (C) IN BOTH THIS MEETING AND A SUBSEQUENT LUNCH WITH HIS SENIOR ADVISORS, SHAHBAZ DISPLAYED THE MIXTURE OF IMPATIENCE AND REFORMIST ZEAL THAT HAVE BECOME HIS HALLMARK. COMPARED EVEN TO THE LAST MEETING WITH HIM IN LATE AUGUST (REFTEL), WE FOUND HIM MORE CONVERSANT AND MORE WILLING TO VENTURE AN OPINION ON THE SECURITY ISSUES THAT FORM THE CORE OF THE U.S.-PAKISTAN BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP. IMPLICIT IN THE SCOPE OF OUR TWO HOUR CONVERSATION AND LUNCH WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WITHOUT PROGRESS ON NON- PROLIFERATION AND THE RELATED SANCTIONS, THE EXPERIMENT IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT REFORM THAT SHAHBAZ HAS LAUNCHED IN PUNJAB (LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF) MAY COME CRASHING TO THE GROUND. END COMMENT. MILAM
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