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| Identifier: | 03HOCHIMINHCITY655 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 03HOCHIMINHCITY655 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Consulate Ho Chi Minh City |
| Created: | 2003-07-21 10:27:00 |
| Classification: | UNCLASSIFIED |
| Tags: | CVIS CJAN ECON SOCI VM EINV |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HO CHI MINH CITY 000655 SIPDIS Dept. for CA/OCS/ACS/PRI, EAP/BCLTV, and EAP/PD State also pass to USTR Bryan E. O. 12958: N/A TAGS: CVIS, CJAN, ECON, SOCI, VM, EINV SUBJECT: REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT AS A GATEWAY TO THE U.S.? 1. Summary: Recent advertisements carried in local Ho Chi Minh City newspapers for a real estate investment opportunity in Houston, Texas, attracted significant interest among local investors and the local press. Post interest was aroused by implications in the advertisements that this investment would allow investors' children to attend public schools in the U.S., and that the Consulate had agreed in advance to notarize all documents related to the real estate sales. Post issued a press release widely reported in the local press disavowing any USG endorsement or approval of the project and warning potential buyers that Vietnamese citizens need student visas to study in the U.S. Post CONS and ECON chiefs sat down with the company's directors to discuss the misleading nature of the advertisements, and to clarify what the ConGen could and could not do in connection with visas and notarial services for Vietnamese investors. The company has since printed a retraction of its earlier claims and has promised to clarify these issues with all potential buyers. We expect that this is the first of many such investments that will be marketed to Vietnam's new monied class. End Summary. Buying a Piece of America -------------------------------- 2. In late June, a series of advertisements in local newspapers claimed that, for the first time, Vietnamese citizens would be allowed to invest in property in the United States. SEI (Southern Investment and Informatics Corporation) Corp. of Ho Chi Minh City was offering 86 lots at a cost of USD 35,000 each, in a property development near Houston, Texas, under the name Diamond Star. Post's Public Affairs and ACS units received numerous inquiries about the advertisements, drawing our attention to implications within the ads that purchase of land in Houston would permit owners' children to attend public school, and that the Consulate General had agreed in advance to notarize all the real estate contracts. Aside from the obviously misleading information regarding student visas, the implications contained in the ads that a special agreement had been reached between the GVN and the USG on this project raised concerns that the public might believe the USG had in some way endorsed or approved the investment project. Is This for Real? ------------------ 3. In an effort to obtain details on the real estate investment deal, and to correct the misleading information in contained in the ads, Post's Fraud Prevention Manager contacted an SEI official, who responded that all of the information in the advertisement was technically correct, if examined from a certain point of view, and that SEI had in no way promised buyers that they would obtain student visas for their children. This lack of responsiveness on the part of SEI raised further concerns that the Diamond Star Project might, in fact, be a scam. Post's FCS office contacted the Department of Commerce office in Houston, Texas to determine if Diamond Star was a real project with actual real property for sale in Houston. FCS confirmed that Diamond Star was a project registered by U.S. Southern Corporation, a wholiy-owned subsidiary of SEI. Post Clarifies Matters and SEI Comes Forward --------------------------------------------- ----------- 4. Post issued a press release to local newspapers in response to the advertisements and public and press inquiries regarding Diamond Star. In the statement, the Consulate General disavowed any USG involvement in real estate deals and unequivocally stated that student visas are adjudicated and notarial services are provided solely on a case-by-case basis. The subsequent media interest in the case grew as did questions about the bona fides of the project, and the directors of SEI Corporation found themselves trying to fend off new rumors that they may in fact not be a legitimate investment. 5. Upon further investigation of SEI, it became clear that one of the main investors of the company was a contact well and favorably known to the Econ section. Mr. Dang Thanh Tam, who owns 25% of the company, is also director of a number of successful industrial parks in Vietnam. At our request, he and a director of the company, Ms. Chau Ngoc Thi Nguyen met with ECON and CONS chiefs on June 30 to clarify their position. 6. ConGenoffs detailed Post's concerns regarding the misleading nature of SEI's advertisements, as well as our concerns over the response of SEI when contacted by our FPM. CONS chief clarified the legal requirements for obtaining a student visa and the general circumstances governing notarial services at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate. ECON reiterated that the advertisements troubled many of Post's staff, particularly the CG, as they led readers to believe that the USG somehow endorsed or approved this investment opportunity. He stated that while Post is pleased to see increased interest in trade and investment between the U.S. and Vietnam, we are not in a position to support any particular project. 7. Ms. Nguyen provided details on the structure of SEI and U.S. Southern Corporation, described the real estate investment development project in Houston as well as planned future developments in Texas and Florida, and apologized for any confusion and concern the advertisements caused. Both SEI officials promised to clarify the statements made in the advertisement, and promised that advertisements for future projects would not make such claims. Mr. Tam also apologized for the advertising and market campaign that he characterized as sloppy and misleading. He stated that this was only one of many projects that he was involved in, and as a minority shareholder (his sister holds majority share) he had not followed it very closely. He assured us, however, that he would fix whatever needed fixing and that he did not want this "small project" to damage his reputation. 8. On July 1, SEI forwarded a draft press statement to Post for our clearance, correcting the misinformation contained in their earlier advertisements and apologizing for any confusion such statements may have caused to potential investors. A few days later the Justice Newspaper, widely read in Ho Chi Minh City, ran an article based on information from SEI in which SEI apologized for its earlier misleading advertisements and made clear that the visa issue is separate from any property transaction. The Saigon Times Weekly also ran a letter to the editor from SEI in which it also reviewed the same issues. No further advertisements for Diamond Star have appeared in the local press; however, Post continues to receive inquiries from member of the local media. Economics of the Deal -------------------------- 9. Initially press reports indicated that all 86 lots sold out within 36 hours of going on sale. As of July 15, however, most of those who "registered" to buy a lot have already cancelled. Five buyers in Vietnam have put down 10% deposits, and another ten lots have been sold to buyers in the U.S. It is not clear if potential buyers abandoned the project because of the bad publicity, after they became aware that they were only buying land and not the right for their children to study in the U.S., or if difficulties in actually making the investment interfered with the transaction. Mr. Tam correctly noted to Econoff that Vietnam has not yet permitted capital to be remitted overseas for property investments, but his company is seeking permission. All of the five current potential buyers in Vietnam have family or business interests in the United States so they do not face the same restrictions. If this permission to remit funds overseas is not granted, it would make the sale of the remainder of the lots much more difficult. 10. Comment: Although it is likely that the implication of easy student visas and USG backing was responsible for much of the strong initial interest in the Diamond Star lots, it is also indicative of a growing moneyed class in Vietnam that would like to invest abroad. Land ownership is a popular investment choice among the Vietnamese, and Houston, with its large Vietnamese- American community, is a natural site for such development projects. According to SEI, most of their buyers were people with relatives already in Houston, people planning to immigrate to the area in the near future, and companies whose owners are interested in having their children attend school in the U.S. This case clearly illustrates the need for further public outreach regarding visa processing as well as general information on the role of the USG in daily life. The case also shows that there is a growing class of people here with significant private resources despite the poverty reflected in the overall economic statistics for Vietnam. Mr. Tam stated that this is the first of several property development projects overseas that SEI plans to market primarily to buyers in Vietnam. End Comment. WHITE
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