US embassy cable - 95ZAGREB2493

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PRESIDENTIAL CHIEF OF STAFF ON 6/30 SAYS "NO PRECONDITIONS" FOR NEGOTIATIONS; TUDJMAN ON 7/2 GIVES ICFY A LIST OF PRECONDITIONS

Identifier: 95ZAGREB2493
Wikileaks: View 95ZAGREB2493 at Wikileaks.org
Origin: Embassy Zagreb
Created: 1995-07-03 17:39:00
Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Tags: War Crimes
Redacted: This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks.
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

CONFIDENTIAL SECTION 01 OF 03 ZAGREB 002493 
 
SIPDIS 
 
 
 
BRUSSELS ALSO FOR USEU 
USVIENNA ALSO FOR USDEL CSCE 
 
E.O. 12356: DECL: 7/3/05 
TAGS: War Crimes 
SUBJECT:  PRESIDENTIAL CHIEF OF STAFF ON 6/30 SAYS "NO 
          PRECONDITIONS" FOR NEGOTIATIONS; TUDJMAN ON 7/2 
          GIVES ICFY A LIST OF PRECONDITIONS 
 
1. CONFIDENTIAL - ENTIRE TEXT. 
 
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SUMMARY 
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2. TWO DAYS AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S CHIEF OF STAFF, HRVOJE 
SARINIC, TOLD THE AMBASSADOR THAT THE GOC HAD (ALMOST) "NO 
PRECONDITIONS" FOR TALKS WITH THE KRAJINA SERBS, PRESIDENT 
TUDJMAN PUBLICLY LAID OUT SIX CONDITIONS FOR CROATIAN 
PARTICIPATION.  SARINIC COMPLAINED THAT THE INTERNATIONAL 
COMMUNITY'S FOCUS ON GAINING RECOGNITION OF BOSNIAN 
HERZEGOVINA WAS POINTLESS, AND CREATED A "DANGEROUS" 
SITUATION IN CROATIA.  AMBASSADOR GALBRAITH URGED THE GOC 
TO OPEN A "SECOND TRACK" OF NEGOTIATIONS:  TO HOLD TALKS 
WITH SERBS FROM GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED TERRITORY ON HOW TO 
IMPROVE THE OVERALL STATUS OF SERBS IN CROATIA.  END 
SUMMARY. 
 
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SARINIC: GOC WILLING TO NEGOTIATE WITH KRAJINA SERBS 
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3. AT LUNCH ON JUNE 30, PRESIDENTIAL CHIEF OF STAFF HRVOJE 
SARINIC TOLD AMBASSADOR GALBRAITH THAT THE GOC WAS WILLING 
TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE KNIN SERBS.  SARINIC, 
SAYING HE WAS REPEATING A STATEMENT HE MADE TO UN SRSG 
AKASHI, SAID "THE ONLY PRECONDITION IS THAT THERE BE NO 
PRECONDITIONS."  HE NOTED IN PARTICULAR THAT SERB 
PRECONDITIONS, SUCH AS A CROATIAN WITHDRAWAL FROM MOUNT 
DINARA IN SECTOR SOUTH, WERE NOT CONSTRUCTIVE.  NOTING 
THAT THE EU AMBASSADORS HAD PRESENTED A DEMARCHE URGING 
WITHDRAWAL FROM MOUNT DINARA, SARINIC SAID THE GOC OFFERED 
"NO APOLOGIES" FOR THE SITUATION:  FOR A LONG TIME, THE 
SITUATION FOR CROATIA HAD BEEN "VERY BAD," NOW IT WAS ONLY 
CROATIAN MILITARY STEPS WHICH HAD MADE THINGS "A BIT 
BETTER." 
 
4. SARINIC HEDGED THE GOC'S LACK OF PRECONDITIONS ON 
NEGOTIATIONS.  THE GOC "OBVIOUSLY" WAS NOT PREPARED TO 
NEGOTIATE WITH "RSK PRESIDENT" MARTIC.  SARINIC ALSO 
CLAIMED THE GOC WAS STILL WILLING TO MEET IN GENEVA, BUT 
THAT THIS "FLEXIBILITY" WOULD "NOT LAST LONG."  TUDJMAN 
WAS AGAINST HOLDING THE MEETING IN GENEVA, AND "SOON" THE 
GOC WOULD RETURN TO ITS INSISTENCE THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS 
BE HELD IN CROATIA. 
 
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TUDJMAN:  BUT ONLY UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS 
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5. "SOON" ARRIVED EARLIER THAN EVEN SARINIC HAD EXPECTED. 
ON JULY 2, PRESIDENT TUDJMAN TOLD ICFY CO-CHAIRMEN BILDT 
AND STOLTENBERG THAT CROATIA WOULD SEEK PRECONDITIONS TO 
ANY NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE KNIN SERBS.  UNDER THE HEADLINE 
"THREE PRECONDITIONS FOR TALKS" THE GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED 
DAILY "VJESNIK" REPORTED SIX (BY OUR COUNT) CONDITIONS: 1) 
THAT MILAN MARTIC NOT PARTICIPATE, AS HE WAS A "WAR 
CRIMINAL" WHO ORDERED THE MAY 2-3 SHELLING OF ZAGREB; 2) 
THAT THE TALKS BE HELD "ON THE TERRITORY OF CROATIA;" 3) 
THAT ANY POLITICAL NEGOTIATIONS WHICH MIGHT TAKE PLACE 
MUST "SUBMIT TO THE SPIRIT OF THE CROATIAN CONSTITUTIONAL 
ACT ON MINORITIES AND ETHNIC COMMUNITIES;" 4) THE RIJEKA- 
SISAK OIL PIPELINE BE REOPENED, AS AGREED IN THE DECEMBER 
1994 ECONOMIC AND CONFIDENCE-BUILDING MEASURES AGREEMENT 
(ECBMA); 5) THE EU ASSIST IN OPENING OF THE ZAGREB-KNIN- 
SPLIT RAILWAY; AND 6) THE UNCRO MANDATE BE IMPLEMENTED "A 
S 
ENVISAGED IN THE UN RESOLUTIONS."  (NOTE:  THE PRESS 
RELEASE FROM TUDJMAN'S OFFICE SOUGHT TO PORTRAY ONLY THE 
LATTER THREE DEMANDS AS GOC "PRECONDITIONS."  END NOTE.) 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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FM AMEMBASSY ZAGREB 
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 6286 
INFO USMISSION USUN NEW YORK IMMEDIATE 
NATO EU COLLECTIVE 
WHITE HOUSE WASHDC 
AMEMBASSY LJUBLJANA 
JOINT STAFF WASHDC//J-5PMA/J21// 
SECDEF WASHDC//ISA/ISP// 
AMEMBASSY BUDAPEST 
CINCUSAFE RAMSTEIN AB GE//DO/LG/XOX/IN/POLAD// 
DIA WASHDC 
USMISSION GENEVA 
CINCUSAREUR HEIDELBERG GE//J3/J4/J5/POLAD// 
AMCONSUL MUNICH 
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE 
JAC MOLESWORTH RAF MOLESWORTH UK 
HQ JTF PP NAPLES IT//CA/POLAD// 
COMSIXTHFLT //N2// 
USCINCEUR VAIHINGEN GE//ECJ3/ECJ4/ECJ5/ECPOLAD// 
USLO SKOPJE 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 02 OF 03 ZAGREB 002493 
 
SIPDIS 
 
 
BRUSSELS ALSO FOR USEU 
USVIENNA ALSO FOR USDEL CSCE 
 
E.O. 12356: DECL: 7/3/05 
TAGS:  PREL PGOV HR UN 
SUBJECT:  PRESIDENTIAL CHIEF OF STAFF ON 6/30 SAYS "NO 
          PRECONDITIONS" FOR NEGOTIATIONS; TUDJMAN ON 7/2 
          GIVES ICFY A LIST OF PRECONDITIONS 
 
 
6. COMMENT:  TUDJMAN'S CONDITIONS, IF HELD TO STRICTLY, 
MEAN WEEKS MORE OF PRE-NEGOTIATIONS BEFORE ANY REAL TALKS 
CAN GET UNDER WAY.  THE PRESS ACCOUNT REPORTED THAT 
TUDJMAN AND THE ICFY CO-CHAIRMEN "AGREED TO ARRANGE 
INTRODUCTORY TALKS IN GENEVA TO DECIDE THE AGENDA AND THE 
TERMS OF FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CROATIAN SERBS.  THE 
ICFY CO-CHAIRMEN WENT TO KNIN ON JULY 3.  END COMMENT. 
 
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PRESSURE BELGRADE 
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7. SARINIC NOTED THAT IT WAS HARD TO BE SURE WHO AMONG THE 
KRAJINA SERBS STILL HAD AUTHORITY, AND URGED THAT MORE 
PRESSURE BE PLACED ON MILOSEVIC.  SARINIC CLAIMED THAT 
MILOSEVIC HAD "GOOD RELATIONS" WITH "RSK PRIME MINISTER- 
DESIGNATE" MILAN BABIC, AND HAD IN FACT ENGINEERED 
BORISLAV MIKELIC'S OUSTER WHEN MIKELIC BECAME INEFFECTIVE. 
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(COMMENT:  SARINIC OFFERED NO EVIDENCE FOR THIS CLAIM. END 
COMMENT.)  WHEN THE AMBASSADOR ASKED IF THE GOC WAS 
PREPARED TO TAKE MILITARY ACTION, PRESUMABLY AT THE END OF 
THE CURRENT UN MANDATE, SARINIC GAVE A SOMEWHAT DESULTORY 
"YEAH" BUT THEN NOTED THAT SEVERAL MONTHS STILL REMAINED 
AND EXCLAIMED, "MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN!" 
 
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BUT DON'T IGNORE CROATIA 
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8. BUT THE CURRENT APPROACH WAS "DANGEROUS," SARINIC SAID, 
BECAUSE CROATIA WAS AGAIN ON THE BACK BURNER FOR THE 
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.  COMMENTING ON THE EU'S CANNES 
STATEMENT, SARINIC ARGUED THAT RECOGNITION OF CROATIA AND 
BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA BY THE "FRY" SHOULD BE A PACKAGE.  THE 
U.S. HAD SEEMED TO BELIEVE THIS, SARINIC SAID, "BUT THEN 
MR. FRASURE MADE HIS TRIPS TO BELGRADE."  RECOGNITION OF 
B-H BY MILOSEVIC "WILL CHANGE NOTHING," WHEREAS 
RECOGNITION OF CROATIA COULD ACTUALLY PAY REAL DIVIDENDS. 
THE AMBASSADOR TOLD SARINIC THAT THE SANCTIONS PACKAGE 
PRESENTED TO MILOSEVIC STILL SOMETHING IN RESERVE LINKED 
TO RECOGNITION OF CROATIA.  BUT SARINIC AGAIN NOTED THAT 
CROATIA HAD SUNK INTO "THE SECOND LINE" AGAIN, AND 
COMMENTED THAT MANY IN THE GOC DREW THE LESSON THAT "WE 
ONLY SEE POLITICAL ATTENTION WHEN THERE ARE HOSTILITIES." 
 
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PUSHING FOR A "SECOND TRACK": TALK TO YOUR "LOYAL" SERBS 
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9. OBSERVING THAT WE HAD NO REAL CAUSE FOR OPTIMISM OVER 
THE PROSPECTS FOR ZAGREB-KNIN TALKS, THE AMBASSADOR URGED 
SARINIC TO PURSUE A "SECOND TRACK" OF DISCUSSIONS: WITH 
THE SERBIAN COMMUNITY ON CROATIAN GOVERNMENT-CONTROLLED 
TERRITORY.  THIS INCLUDED SERBS WHO HAD STAYED IN CITIES 
SUCH AS ZAGREB OR RIJEKA THROUGHOUT THE WAR, BUT ALSO 
THOSE SERBS WHO REMAINED IN, OR RETURNED TO, THEIR HOMES 
IN WESTERN SLAVONIA (SECTOR WEST).  MANY STEPS COULD BE 
TAKEN SUCH AS: REBUILDING SERB AS WELL AS CROAT HOMES 
DAMAGED DURING THE WAR, TAKING STEPS AGAINST EMPLOYMENT 
DISCRIMINATION, GIVING THE SERBS MORE OF A VOICE IN 
CURRICULUM DECISIONS, AND PUNISHING ANY CROATIANS WHO MAY 
HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST SERBS IN THE AFTERMATH OF 
OPERATION "FLASH."  BUT THIS WERE JUST SOME IDEAS, PERHAPS 
EVEN MORE IMPORTANT WOULD BE TO BEGAN A PUBLIC, AND 
OFFICIAL, DIALOGUE WITH SERB COMMUNITY LEADERS, SO THAT 
THEY FELT THEY HAD AN INFLUENCE ON THE DECISIONS TAKEN BY 
THE GOC.  RIGHT NOW, THE AMBASSADOR NOTED, THE SERBS OF 
CROATIA FEEL SHUT OUT FROM DECISION-MAKING, EVEN ON THE 
ISSUES OF GREATEST CONSEQUENCE TO THEM.  THE AMBASSADOR 
ALSO NOTED THAT PUBLIC STEPS TO IMPROVE AND SECURE THE 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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ACTION EUR-01 
 
INFO  LOG-00   AID-00   CIAE-00  SMEC-00  OASY-00  SRPP-00  FBIE-00 
      H-01     TEDE-00  INR-00   IO-08    L-01     ADS-00   M-00 
      NSAE-00  OIC-02   OMB-01   PA-01    PM-00    PRS-01   P-01 
      SCT-00   SP-00    SSO-00   SS-00    TRSE-00  T-00     USIE-00 
      PMB-00   PRMC-01  DRL-09   G-00       /027W 
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O 031739Z JUL 95 
FM AMEMBASSY ZAGREB 
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 6287 
INFO USMISSION USUN NEW YORK IMMEDIATE 
NATO EU COLLECTIVE 
WHITE HOUSE WASHDC 
AMEMBASSY LJUBLJANA 
JOINT STAFF WASHDC//J-5PMA/J21// 
SECDEF WASHDC//ISA/ISP// 
AMEMBASSY BUDAPEST 
CINCUSAFE RAMSTEIN AB GE//DO/LG/XOX/IN/POLAD// 
DIA WASHDC 
USMISSION GENEVA 
CINCUSAREUR HEIDELBERG GE//J3/J4/J5/POLAD// 
AMCONSUL MUNICH 
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE 
JAC MOLESWORTH RAF MOLESWORTH UK 
HQ JTF PP NAPLES IT//CA/POLAD// 
COMSIXTHFLT //N2// 
USCINCEUR VAIHINGEN GE//ECJ3/ECJ4/ECJ5/ECPOLAD// 
USLO SKOPJE 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 03 OF 03 ZAGREB 002493 
 
SIPDIS 
 
 
BRUSSELS ALSO FOR USEU 
USVIENNA ALSO FOR USDEL CSCE 
 
E.O. 12356: DECL: 7/3/05 
TAGS:  PREL PGOV HR UN 
SUBJECT:  PRESIDENTIAL CHIEF OF STAFF ON 6/30 SAYS "NO 
          PRECONDITIONS" FOR NEGOTIATIONS; TUDJMAN ON 7/2 
          GIVES ICFY A LIST OF PRECONDITIONS 
 
STATUS OF ETHNIC SERB CITIZENS COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT 
IMPACT WITH THE POPULATION OF THE "RSK" IN TERMS OF 
REDUCING SUPPORT FOR THE REBEL REGIME, AND WOULD ALMOST 
CERTAINLY HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON CROATIA'S RELATIONS 
WITH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. 
 
10. SARINIC'S REACTION WAS COOL, BUT NOT NEGATIVE.  NO ONE 
FROM THE SERB COMMUNITY HAD APPROACHED HIM WITH A FORMAL 
REQUEST FOR A MEETI 
NG.  IF HE RECEIVED ONE, HE WOULD 
"CATALYZE" IT, AND PERHAPS EVEN PARTICIPATE HIMSELF. 
SARINIC ARGUED THAT THE GOC HAD "TRIED ITS BEST" TO SHOW 
SERBS IN WESTERN SLAVONIA THAT LIFE IN CROATIA WAS 
POSSIBLE, AND REPEATED THAT THE GOC WAS READY TO RECEIVE 
ALL SERBS WHO WANTED TO RETURN.  THE GOC HAD PROBLEMS, 
HOWEVER, WITH "LOCAL PEOPLE" WHO RESIST THE GOC'S 
DECISIONS.  ACCORDING TO SARINIC, "DECISIONS TAKEN AT THE 
HIGHEST LEVEL ARE NOT IMPLEMENTED LOCALLY.  IT IS NOT 
EASY." 
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11. COMMENT:  THE REALITY OF RESISTANCE AMONG MANY (BUT 
NOT ALL) OF THE DISPLACED PERSONS, WAR VETERANS, AND EVEN 
AVERAGE CROATIANS FOR FULL PROTECTION OF THE HUMAN AND 
CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE SERB COMMUNITY IS PRECISELY WHY THE 
GOC MUST TAKE AN ACTIVIST APPROACH ON THE ISSUE.  WE PLAN 
TO CONTINUE TO PUSH THE GOC TO BEGIN A PROCESS OF DIALOGUE 
(UNDER MODIFIED Z-4 AUSPICES) WITH THE "LOYAL" SERB 
COMMUNITY AS A "SECOND TRACK" WHICH CAN BE FOLLOWED IN 
PARALLEL TO, BUT INDEPENDENT OF, THE NORMAL Z-4 
NEGOTIATIONS WITH KNIN. 
 
GALBRAITH 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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