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| Identifier: | 05THEHAGUE2973 |
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| Wikileaks: | View 05THEHAGUE2973 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy The Hague |
| Created: | 2005-11-01 12:49:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL MCAP NL XA MASS MARR PGOV |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 THE HAGUE 002973 SIPDIS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FOR DASD WHELAN STATE FOR THE DEPUTY SECRETARY AND S/CRS STATE ALSO FOR EUR/UBI/REITER USEU FOR LERNER AND BRENNER E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/01/2015 TAGS: PREL, MCAP, NL, XA, MASS, MARR, PGOV SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/AFRICA: DASD WHELAN'S VISIT TO THE HAGUE REF: THE HAGUE 02756 Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Andrew Schofer for Reasons 1.4(b) and (d). 1. (U) SUMMARY. On October 14, DASD for African Affairs Theresa Whelan met with several representatives of the Dutch MFA and MOD. Discussion during the two meetings included GONL and USG involvement in SSR and DDR initiatives in South Africa, Sudan, Rwanda, Burundi, and the DRC, as well as mutual commitment to combating HIV/AIDS and violence against women. Participants shared interest in approaching post-conflict situations holistically, perspectives on the future roles of NATO and the EU in Africa, and concerns about weapons destruction initiatives. END SUMMARY. SOUTH AFRICA: FIRST WORLD INFRASTRUCTURE, THIRD WORLD TALENT --------------------------------------------- --------------- 2. (C) Dutch interlocutors agreed with DASD Whelan's assessment that the South African military is the sole force on the continent that has the potential to operate on the brigade level and is thus the most likely candidate to play a significant role in African peace and security. Consequently, the Dutch share the USG's view that building the capacity of the rapidly crumbling South African military forces is crucial. Peter de Gooijer (Deputy Director General, Political Affairs, MFA) pointed to FM Bot's Oct. 10-11 visit to Johannesburg as evidence of Dutch interest in building a strategic partnership with the South Africans. During his visit, Bot signed an agreement giving the South Africans 5 million euros for SSR/DDR activities in the DRC and another allowing the South Africans to make more use of Dutch military training capabilities and exercise opportunities. 3. (C) The Dutch share the USG's opinion that South Africa can play a key role in counter-terrorism initiatives. DASD Whelan suggested that joint Dutch - U.S. action to combat bogus South African passports, which are relatively easy to counterfeit and have considerable clout on the continent, would make a significant contribution to the war against terror in Africa. 4. (U) Dutch interlocutors agreed that the GONL and the USG should continue to explore avenues of cooperation in building the capacity of the South African military. DASD Whelan agreed to lay the groundwork for a joint project during working-level meetings with the South Africans on November 7 and 8. Dutch counterparts agreed to continue the momentum during meetings planned in South Africa in December and January. 5. (C) Both the Dutch and the U.S. have advocated a more aggressive South African posture vis-a-vis Zimbabwe, and both have been rebuffed by President Mbeki. De Gooijer speculated that the South Africans will, as a matter of principle, prioritize regional solidarity over political pragmatism in dealing with Harare. Though DASD Whelan and De Gooijer agreed that waiting for Mugabe to die was an imperfect solution, DASD Whelan explained that the USG is shifting its position regarding the South African Development Community (SADC) in terms of Zimbabwe. The USG will work with the SADC as an element of the AU concept and with Zimbabwe as a member of the SADC, but will not/not engage Harare bilaterally. 6. (U) The South Africans have approached both the U.S. and the Dutch with a proposal to build a facility to destroy small weapons not only from South Africa but also from conflict regions such as the DRC. De Gooijer explained that the Dutch find the proposal illogical, since small weapons can be destroyed easily enough in conflict zones without a dedicated facility to do so. De Gooijer also pointed to the logistical hurdles in moving arms confiscated in the DRC, for instance, to South Africa for destruction. DASD Whelan responded that the Swedes committed to financing in part the construction of a small weapons confiscation center for the South Africans as an offset of the South Africans' purchase of 28 Gripen fighters. The South Africans have appealed to the USG to pay their share of the construction costs. SUDAN: DUTCH DO NOT SUPPORT BLUEHATTING AMIS TROOPS --------------------------------------------- ------ 7. (U) Dutch counterparts agreed that the recent kidnapping of military observers by a faction of the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) seriously undermined AMIS's credibility. Given shared interest in building the capacity of the AU to address security problems in Africa, USG and GONL participants agreed that delegating AMIS authority to UNMIS in the short term may be a blow from which the AU could not recover. DASD Whelan expressed conviction that handing over control to UNMIS in the long term is nevertheless inevitable. The Dutch, however, do not support bluehatting AMIS troops. Hans Docter (Deputy Head of the Sudan Task Force, MFA) explained that the GONL will continue efforts to build the capacity of AMIS troops with the expectation that AMIS will be able to sustain supervision of SSR/DDR activities in Darfur. 8. (U) The Dutch do not fully understand USG prioritization of SPLA integration over the creation of the Joint Integrated Units (JIUs) pursuant to the IMAT paradigm. Dutch officials were stunned by DASD Whelan's assertion that the SPLA intends to hedge its bets on the success of the Government of National Unity (GNU) by maintaining a separate standing army of approximately 60-140 thousand troops subsidized by the SPLM's share of projected oil revenues. 9. (U) The Dutch made a strong pitch to DASD Whelan for U.S. cooperation on initiatives to combat violence against women, particularly in Sudan, where the Dutch have expressed interest in joint initiatives and have a one million euro fund dedicated to such initiatives. RWANDA ------ 10. (C) The U.S. and the Dutch share an interest in using Rwandan military forces in external peacekeeping missions and agree that a necessary first step toward realizing this objective is intensive troop training. DM Kamp recently signed an MOU in Kigali on bilateral military cooperation that will assist Rwandan military forces in carrying out crisis management operations in Africa. Dutch peace and stability projects could serve as excellent complements to USG training efforts in the region. USG Just In Time Training (JITT) for Rwandan troops destined for AMIS service faces resistance from Congress; DASD Whelan encouraged Dutch interlocutors to continue the program or present a sustainable troop-training alternative. BURUNDI ------- 11. (U) The Dutch see Burundi as an important priority; they have contributed 103 million euros for SSR/DDR initiatives and to the United Nations Operations in Burundi (ONUB). DASD Whelan suggested the Dutch collaborate with the USG on a language lab project, explaining that perhaps the Dutch could construct the lab facility and the USG could provide the necessary materials (computers, language books). THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC): A LONG WAY TO GO --------------------------------------------- ----------- 12. (C) The USG is prepared to provide brigade-level support for SSR/DDR initiatives in the DRC. DASD Whelan lamented that it will nonetheless be at least a decade before the FARDC is more than an army in name only. The USG is interested in making a substantive contribution to the multilateral effort in the DRC, but has yet to identify where in particular; DASD Whelan suggested that perhaps the USG would do so at the level of the Ministry of Defense. 13. (U) The Dutch are considering projects to improve the intelligence capability of MONUC. DASD Whelan explained that the impediments to intelligence sharing in the DRC are fundamental, largely consisting of tactical challenges to collecting information at the human level. DASD Whelan put forth the DOD's tripartite intelligence fusion cell initiative as a method of facilitating the flow of information from the field to MONUC. Dutch interlocutors agreed to continue exchanging views and expertise with regard to building the capacity of the intelligence regime in the DRC. EU AND NATO: WORKING TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE ------------------------------------------- 14. (U) While reactions were not unanimous in the subject, most interlocutors enthusiastically greeted DASD Whelan's suggestion that the EU and NATO work complementarily in Africa. Robert de Groot, (Director of Security Initiatives, MFA) and Major General Cobelens (Director of Operations, MOD) embraced DASD Whelan's suggestion that NATO's expertise in SSR/DDR and capacity-building could buttress the AU's operational efforts in Sudan and elsewhere. DASD Whelan underscored the vital role NATO could play in realizing the concept of an African Standby Force. Col. Langdorf added that the NATO Partnership for Peace initiative could be adapted to Sub-Saharan Africa. 15. (U) Hans Horbach (Deputy Director of Security Initiatives, MFA) praised NATO's SSR/DDR capabilities and lamented a tension between NATO and the EU that he saw as more perceived than real, pointing to the press as the instigator of the perception. Whether real or perceived, DASD Whelan argued that the working relationship between the two entities was flawed, as evidenced by the disappointing results of the MAPEX activities in Sudan in September. Docter and De Groot, acknowledging the EU-NATO relationship in Sudan is dysfunctional, suggested that the EU assume more responsibility for logistics, management, and policing and leave SSR/DDR activities to NATO. 16. (U) De Groot expressed enthusiasm for the prospect of Dutch involvement in NATO capacity-building initiatives on the regional level, suggesting that the GONL and USG take a year to come up with a joint "blueprint" of NATO capacity-building initiatives in Africa. Though USG efforts in capacity-building on the regional level have been focused in the West, DASD Whelan was enthusiastic about other regional opportunities, despite logistical hurdles. She explained that prior USG cooperation with the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) was largely a result of the fact that ECOWAS has a system that facilitates direct engagement, unlike SADC. Dutch interlocutors shared DASD Whelan's interest in engaging SADC through NATO. THINKING HOLISTICALLY --------------------- 17. (U) The Dutch are keenly interested in taking a holistic approach to post-conflict reconstruction and stabilization in Africa. DASD Whelan explained that the DOD Strategy Department is working on a pilot project that approaches "ungoverned space" holistically in an effort to avoid stovepiping. She suggested that perhaps the Dutch could inform the DOD's analysis of the way forward in synthesizing the tripartite command structure -- CENTCOM, EUCOM, and PACOM -- currently in force in Africa. Joint Dutch - U.S initiatives in holistic thinking may be particularly pertinent to Africa's troubled maritime space, rife with fishing conflicts, smuggling, and piracy. Major General Cobelens was enthusiastic about the prospect of combating Somalian pirates with CENTCOM. Dutch counterparts agreed with DASD Whelan's suggestion that the South African Navy be included in joint GONL-USG maritime security initiatives in Africa and in Task Force 150 operations, provided the scope of the Task Force could be expanded. 18. (U) While conceptual common ground was found on myriad topics, DASD Whelan and De Gooijer were especially engaged in sharing their views on the sequencing of point-conflict reconstruction. Whelan and de Gooijer agreed that security is a necessary element of development and that development therefore cannot commence until security has been established. De Gooijer added that the South African's shared opinions on this subject figured prominently in the Dutch decision to identify South Africa as a key ally on the continent. HIV/AIDS -------- 19. (U) Dutch interlocutors shared their interest in combating HIV/AIDS in Africa and urged the U.S. to consider joint initiatives. Dutch Parliament, they said, is always interested in HIV/AIDS projects in Africa. DASD Whelan explained that implementation of all USG HIV/AIDS initiatives involving the military comes from the Naval Health Research Center (NHRC) in San Diego. She invited Dutch counterparts to the NHRC for an information exchange and consultations. In the alternative, NHRC officials perhaps could come to the Netherlands. DASD Whelan further suggested that the Dutch and the U.S. explore possibilities of working as implementing partners on AIDS initiatives in Africa, particularly in South Africa, where estimates of HIV infection in the military run as high as 45 per cent. SCHOFER
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