US embassy cable - 05ISTANBUL1867

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TURKEY-ARMENIA: TRACK TWO ON TRACK?

Identifier: 05ISTANBUL1867
Wikileaks: View 05ISTANBUL1867 at Wikileaks.org
Origin: Consulate Istanbul
Created: 2005-10-27 11:49:00
Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Tags: PREL PGOV PHUM TU AM Istanbul
Redacted: This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks.
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISTANBUL 001867 
 
SIPDIS 
 
DEPARTMENT FOR EUR/SE 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/24/2015 
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PHUM, TU, AM, Istanbul 
SUBJECT: TURKEY-ARMENIA:  TRACK TWO ON TRACK? 
 
REF: A. ADANA 183 
 
     B. ISTANBUL 1680 
     C. ISTANBUL 1780 
 
Classified By: CONSUL GENERAL DEBORAH K. JONES FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND 
(D). 
 
1.  (C)  Summary:  Turkish-Armenian "Track Two" efforts 
continue to chip away at old attitudes.  A New Jersey-based 
Armenian Orthodox Church official was pleased with his 
reception in Ankara during a recent visit, and plans to 
organize tours to Turkey with diaspora Armenians next year. 
"Alternative Armenian Conference" participants created an 
e-mail "list serve," including U.S.-based Armenian academics, 
to maintain their dialogue and debate.  A glossy women's 
magazine targets Turkish and Armenian women, focusing on 
topics of mutual interest.  These efforts notwithstanding, an 
analyst at one Istanbul think-tank told us Turkey's Armenia 
policy cannot evolve at the expense of the Azeris, in the 
absence of progress on Nagorno-Karabakh.  End Summary. 
 
"The Diaspora is not Monolithic" 
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2.  (C) Reverend Father Papken Anoushian of New Jersey's 
Armenian Orthodox church and Noyan Soyak, Vice Chairman of 
the Turkish-Armenian Business Development Council (TABDC), 
told pol/econoffs October 5 about Anoushian's recent visit to 
Ankara, where he met with the Turkish MFA's Huseyin Avni 
Bicakli and Huseyin Avni Karslioglu, and AKP Vice-Chair Reha 
Denemec.  Anoushian shared with them his desire to mobilize 
support for Turkey's EU accession in the diaspora, and to 
build a platform for cooperation.  He spoke of bringing a 
group of 50-60 to visit Turkey next year, and is considering 
how the Armenian diaspora in Europe can assist Turkey's 
lobbying efforts with the EU (Turkey needs some help in this 
area, Soyak pointed out).  Soyak claimed the Armenian 
community in the U.S. is more diverse than one might think, 
and that more progressive diaspora elements are ripe for this 
kind of mobilization.  He allowed that he is pleased with the 
ongoing restoration project on Akdamar Island (ref A), but 
said serious work must be done in Ani, where he claimed a 
sub-standard renovation approach was being slapped together. 
 
Track Two in Print 
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3.  (U)  The Turkish and Armenian Women's Magazine -- a 
glossy, professional, and relatively expensive (USD 3.50) 
quarterly -- will offer its third issue later this year. 
Turkish publisher Sule Kilicarslan told poloff in August that 
the magazine, with a circulation of 15,000, serves as a 
bridge between women in the two countries because it "doesn't 
get into politics," but focuses on common regional interests. 
 Articles in the next edition will reportedly focus on the 
Akdamar restoration, a Galatasaray-Yerevan University 
exchange program, the Hatay Meeting of Civilizations, an Ara 
Guler photo exhibit and city profiles of Mardin, Turkey, and 
Gyumri, Armenia.  Kilicarslan has her own communications 
company and is the Chair of the Eurasia Cultural and Social 
Development Association.  She received support for the 
project from American University's Center for Global Peace, 
but her first Armenian partner experienced (unspecified) 
"pressure" in 2003 and pulled out of the venture. 
Kilicarslan is pleased with her new Yerevan-based joint 
publisher, Gohar Dubost, who also owns a communications 
company, and will spend at least one day in Yerevan with her 
as each new issue is planned.  Among the top destinations of 
courtesy copies of the magazine are the Turkish Parliament 
and Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul. 
 
Track Two On Line 
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4.  (C)  Led by University of Michigan's Muge Gocek, a number 
of presenters at the Alternative Armenian Conference (ref B) 
formed an e-mail "list serve" after the conference, and have 
included U.S.-based Armenian academics in their 
communications, as well.  Representing University of 
Minnesota, the Royal Military College of Canada, the 
Massachusetts-based National Association for Armenian Studies 
and Research, Istanbul's Sabanci University, and Ankara 
University's Political Science Faculty, this bi-communal 
electronic community has discussed issues ranging from 
whether only Turks, or Armenians, too, should sign a petition 
in support of Hrant Dink (ref C); whether Orhan Pamuk 
backtracked on his comments in his recent CNN-Turk interview; 
and whether one participant should be criticized for using 
the term "bilateral fetishism," as it suggests a moral 
equivalence between those seeking recognition of genocide and 
those opposing it.  Finally, a Michigan-based professor, part 
of a Turkish-Armenian group that has been studying together 
the events of 1915-16 for some time now, expressed his 
gratification that "a small ball that...started rolling in 
Chicago five years ago has picked up a lot of steam..." 
Conferences, and more conferences 
--------------------------------- 
5.  (C)  Conferences on "Armenian" issues are on the rise. 
Istanbul University -- accusing the "Alternative" conference 
of being one-sided -- announced its intent to organize a 
"more balanced" conference next year.  (Note:  Hrant Dink has 
said he will not participate in that event.  End note.) 
Kayseri's Erciyes University will reportedly hold a symposium 
in April 2006 entitled "The Art of Living Together in Ottoman 
Society:  Turkish-Armenian Relations Sample."  (Comment:  It 
may be no coincidence that Kayseri is FM Gul's home town and 
recently hosted EU Enlargement Commissioner Ollie Rehn.  End 
comment.) 
 
Not So Fast... 
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6.  (C)  TESEV's Mensur Akgun told visiting EUR/SE Director 
Doug Silliman October 13 that despite the breaking of taboos 
and the current perception of motion, the GOT must continue 
to be cautious on Armenia.  To take the initiative and 
announce an opening of borders is not as easy as it might 
appear, he claimed, even if the GOT wanted to be bold.  It 
has as much to do with a larger set of issues related to 
Turkey's Russia policy, as it does with the "genocide" 
question and getting over the past.  Opening to Armenia at 
the expense of the Azeris simply cannot be done, he claimed, 
hoping that the Minsk group would continue to make progress 
toward a Nagorno-Karabakh settlement and allow these 
interdependent issues to move forward. 
 
7.  (C) Comment:  Despite the unlikelihood of major bilateral 
breakthroughs between Turkey and Armenia any time soon, the 
Turkish public may be more prepared when this eventually 
happens, as a result of increasing openness here to dialog on 
Turkish-Armenian relations and related topics.  End Comment. 
JONES 

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