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| Identifier: | 05BAGHDAD4118 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05BAGHDAD4118 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Baghdad |
| Created: | 2005-10-05 14:03:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL PGOV IZ SA Shia Islamists |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L BAGHDAD 004118 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/03/2015 TAGS: PREL, PGOV, IZ, SA, Shia Islamists SUBJECT: IRAQI SHIA DON'T THINK MUCH OF SAUDI FOREIGN MINISTER'S REMARKS Classified By: POLITICAL COUNSELOR ROBERT FORD FOR REASONS 1.4 (B) AND (D). 1. (C) SUMMARY: Recent comments by the Saudi Arabian Minister of Foreign Affairs, combined with the Arab League Secretary General's decision to travel to Iraq, have raised SIPDIS the ire of many Iraqi Shia. They expressed anger at assertions that Iran has undue influence in Iraq, and they are unhappy with comments from neighboring Arab states that the Shia have too much influence; they perceive that as interference on behalf of the Sunni Arabs. Ambassador Khalilzad's recent trip to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, however, has received positive coverage in the Shia media, with the Ambassador portrayed as a defender of the Shia. END SUMMARY. 2. (C) Comments by Saudi Arabian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Saud al-Faisal, that the U.S. used Iraqi Shia to hand control of Iraq to Iran, angered many Iraqis. Iraqi Interior Minister Bayan Jabr responded to the comments by saying that Iraq needed no lessons on democracy from the "Bedouin camel herders" in Saudi Arabia. He added that Shia in Saudi Arabia suffer more than the Shia in Iraq because of Saudi Arabia's stratified social system, with King Faisal's family at the top, the Ismaili Muslims underneath them, and the Shia on the bottom. The Iraqi Minister of Foreign Affairs, Hoshyar Zebari, has apologized for these comments, but many Iraqi Shia of all stripes support Minister Jabr and do not feel an apology should have been issued. Prominent Shia imam and parliamentarian Jalal ad-Din as-Saghayr told PolCouns that the Saudis should stay out of Iraq's business. National Security Advisor Muwaffak Rubai'e was similarly visibly unhappy with Faisal's remarks over dinner with the Ambassador October 1. 3. (C) News about possible travel by Arab League Secretary General Amru Musa to Iraq to mediate the constitution process is seen by many Iraqi Shia as anathema. The Arab League is viewed as a pro-Sunni organization, and Secretary General Musa is widely disliked among Iraqi Shia. He is considered to be close to the Iraqi insurgency, and has even met with Dr. Harith Sulayman al Dari, head of the hard-line Sunni Arab Association of Muslim Scholars. In an October 3 meeting with PolCouns, TNA Constitution Drafting Committee chair Haman Hamoudi asked how Musa could possibly help finalize the constitution. Hamoudi was deeply suspicious of Musa's motives. 4. (C) In contrast, the Iraqi Shia media has applauded Ambassador Khalilzad's visit to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. The October 4 edition of the newspaper Al-Bayyna, for example, reports that Ambassador went to Saudi Arabia to ask them to pressure the Arab League into normalizing relations with Iraq. According to Al-Bayyna, Khalilzad warned the Saudis not to involve themselves in Iraq's political process. He also told them not to threaten the Shia in eastern Saudi Arabia, who numbers 4 million. This press coverage contrasted with questions from suspicious parliamentarians we fielded on October 3 about the trip. Hamudi and as-Saghayr, for example, questioned us carefully about the Ambassador's trip. 5. (C) COMMENT: These events highlight the sectarian differences that plague Iraqi society. There is enormous mistrust among the various ethnic groups, with the Sunni Arabs and Shia both willing to accuse each other of collaboration with foreign powers. We need to keep these sensitivities in mind as we ponder how Arab states might be able to help stabilize Iraq. END COMMENT. Khalilzad
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