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| Identifier: | 05ALMATY3451 |
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| Wikileaks: | View 05ALMATY3451 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | US Office Almaty |
| Created: | 2005-10-04 06:39:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL PGOV KZ 2005 Election POLITICAL |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available. 040639Z Oct 05
C O N F I D E N T I A L ALMATY 003451 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/04/2015 TAGS: PREL, PGOV, KZ, 2005 Election, POLITICAL SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: A/S FRIED,S MEETINGS WITH KAZAKHSTANI OPPOSITION PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES Classified By: Ambassador John Ordway, reasons 1.4 (B) and (D). 1. (C) Summary: During meetings with Kazakhstani opposition presidential candidates, A/S Fried heard several common themes about Kazakhstan's differences from its neighboring countries, the importance of strengthening its western orientation, the need for political reform, and the toll that corruption -- including at the highest levels -- takes on the country. Ak Zhol leader Alikhan Baimenov came across as a man with a strong desire to help bring about real change in Kazakhstan, and bitter at not being chosen as the unified opposition candidate. For a Just Kazakhstan leader Zharmakhan Tuyakbay appeared confident in his support among the electorate and focused on a clear series of steps to bring about political reform. End summary. 2. (SBU) In separate meetings in Almaty on October 29, EUR A/S Daniel Fried spoke with presidential candidates Alikhan Baimenov (Ak Zhol) and Zharmakhan Tuyakbay (For a Just Kazakhstan). Baimenov was accompanied by Burikhan Nurmukhamedov, and Tuyakbay was accompanied by Tolegen Zhukeyev. NSC Director David Merkel, DASD Jim MacDougall, SA DAS John Gastright, Ambassador, DCM, POEC chief (notetaker), and POL FSN (interpreter) also took part in the meetings. --------------------------------------------- ------- Baimenov: Running to Draw Votes away from Nazarbayev --------------------------------------------- ------- 3. (SBU) Baimenov started off with a lengthy discourse on Kazakhstan's general orientation and the regional context. He stressed the importance of maintaining a Western orientation, noting that Kazakhstan is a member not only of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) but also the OSCE. Baimenov noted that Kazakhstan differs in many important ways from its southern neighbors, including bearing "less burden of history" and having a higher level of education, a greater degree of openness, and a more diverse population. 4. (C) Turning to politics, Baimenov told A/S Fried that he and others were trying to persuade President Nazarbayev to proceed with democratization. He does not deny the important economic achievements under Nazarbayev's leadership, but sees a fundamental contradiction between the government's stated goal of a market economy and the current political system. According to Baimenov, Nazarbayev understands that this contradiction may eventually lead to a dead end. Nazarbayev is experiencing an internal struggle between the desire to be remembered favorably by history and the knowledge that greater democratization will reveal his and his associates' "personal problems" stemming from the privatization period. 5. (C) Baimenov described Kazakhstani society as divided into three main groups politically. The first group, which supports Nazarbayev, includes ethnic Kazakhs who see change as a potential threat to independence, ethnic minorities who see Nazarbayev as a guarantor of stability and their rights, and owners of illegally privatized large industrial enterprises who work against democratization. (Note: Baimenov was undoubtedly referring to Aleksandr Mashkevich and his associates. End note.) There is a second group who oppose all political leaders. The third group is made up of people who want democratization if there is a reasonable alternative to the current power that would not lead to destabilization. Baimenov said that this last group was Ak Zhol's electoral base; if his party did not exist, they would vote for the incumbent. 6. (C) The December 4 presidential elections will not be fair, Baimenov predicted. He is concerned about what will happen afterwards if there are falsifications, and about the negative impact on the country's development. In response to A/S Fried's question about the potential for a Karimov-style crackdown, Baimenov said he did not believe that Nazarbayev would act "on that scale." The readiness and resources exist, however, and it is possible that those who advise "strong measures" might win out. Baimenov said much will depend on the actions of akims (regional leaders) and what preventive measures they might take. Baimenov predicted that in the event of unfair elections conflict could occur in Almaty "on a scale like Bishkek, not Kiev." 7. (SBU) When asked about his political program, Baimenov underscored the need for urgent political reforms. He planned to convene a constitutional council to revise the Constitution in accordance with the reforms he outlined during his party congress speech. He would support a liberal economy, including WTO membership. All state regulations should be transparent. Baimenov also called for transparency in contracts, as it reduces future political risk, but noted that he was opposed to unilateral revision of existing deals. He outlined a program to ensure fair relations between employers and workers and to promote SME development. Baimenov said he spoke to voters a great deal about the problem of corruption, but did not offer details. Overall Turkey would be his model of development, as another Turkic, Muslim country wanting to move toward the West and democracy. 8. (SBU) Regarding relations with Russia, Baimenov said that he would stress that democratization did not threaten the Kazakhstan-Russia bilateral relationship. A/S Fried told Baimenov that we stress to Russia that it is better for it to have stable democratic neighbors than dictators or failed states. The U.S. is interested in supporting stability through economic and political reform; we do not see ourselves in competition with Russia in this region. Baimenov commented that if Russia openly supported Nazarbayev's candidacy, some parts of society would not be pleased. 9. (C) Noting that when he had met with NSD Director Merkel recently in Washington Baimenov had been weighing the personal cost of running for president, Merkel asked what had made him decide to run. Baimenov explained that when he speaks with voters he focuses on his desire to help change the country for the better. The practical reason was the fact that if he did not run, it would "ease the work" of the authorities. Most of his Ak Zhol electoral base considered Tuyakbay and the leadership of For a Just Kazakhstan (FJK) too radical, and therefore would vote for Nazarbayev if Baimenov did not run. Baimenov described his electorate as people who want change without revolution, such as teachers, doctors, young people, small business owners, and some older voters. He commented bitterly that FJK had made two serious mistakes when it decided that its presidential candidate could not be from a party, and that it would work aggressively against any other potential candidate from the democratic camp. 10. (SBU) A/S Fried told Baimenov that one of his main messages to the GOK would be the importance of fair elections and progress on democratization. Baimenov concurred that forward movement is the most important thing: "we don't compare ourselves with the West to gauge our progress; we compare the situation today with what it was yesterday and what it will be tomorrow." He added that he was running for president with the full realization that life does not stop with the elections; his goal is to change society, not to replace one group of oligarchs with another. ------------------------- Tuyakbay: Running to Win ------------------------- 11. (C) Tuyakbay noted that, while Kazakhstan differs from the other countries of Central Asia in many ways, they are united by their leaders' strong desire to hold onto power. Kazakhstan is losing some of the gains made after independence as a result of efforts to preserve the current authoritarian regime. Tuyakbay told A/S Fried that no branch of government is able to criticize the president, who is completely isolated and does what he wants. Tuyakbay emphasized the level of corruption in the Nazarbayev family, including the theft of businesses and crooked privatizations. He said the fact that a single person can not effectively manage an entire government system had lead to the corruption of the whole system. All branches work to protect the status quo. According to Tuyakbay, the people and the government exist independently of each other. He maintained that people now feared to speak out. 12. (SBU) Asked by A/S Fried what his program would be if he were elected president, Tuyakbay said he had no doubt that he would win -- "if not in December, then within two years." FJK has a clear political and economic program to improve governance. The first step would be the adoption of a new Constitution to limit the powers of the president and create a real parliamentary- presidential system. The president would be limited to a single five-year term, the government would be under the control of parliament, and regional executive bodies would be elected. Tuyakbay highlighted the absence of an independent judiciary as the most pressing democratic deficit; he would have parliament provide financing directly to the judiciary to increase its independence. He would also create a Constitutional Court. 13. (SBU) On the economic front, Tuyakbay called for openness and transparency of contracts, tenders, and all other contacts between government officials and business. Tuyakbay said that while there would be no revision of existing energy contracts, new contracts would include additional transparency measures and equal rights for all parties. If elected, he would review the privatizations of large metallurgical and other firms and re-privatize at market prices those that were found to have been sold off illegally. According to Tuyakbay, many metallurgical firms ended up in the hands of the Nazarbayev family or oligarchs such as Shodiyev and Ibragimov. They would be eligible to bid when the firms were auctioned off. Tuyakbay highlighted diversification of the economy and the development of industry as pressing economic goals; widespread corruption is the biggest obstacle to both. 14. (C) Tuyakbay somewhat laughingly described his electoral base as "everyone not in Nazarbayev's immediate circle." He claimed that a big part of society was dissatisfied with the status quo. FJK looked to the middle class for most of its support, as they suffer the most from corruption. Tuyakbay claimed that FJK's polls showed he would receive 77-78% in fair election. (Comment: This claim is simply not credible. End Comment) A/S Fried noted that he understood Tuyakbay was not as well known in the regions as he was in Almaty, and asked how he planned to increase his visibility. Tuyakbay said that FJK's 250,000 members would be going door-to-door across the country to campaign for him. The seven opposition newspapers were now printing 650,000 copies a week, 80% of which were making it to readers despite the authorities' attempts to confiscate them. Access to television would be crucial, Tuyakbay added; as of right now he could not get any coverage on TV or radio, even negative. The Nazarbayev family controls 90% of broadcast media. Channel 31, although ostensibly independent, was controlled by Security Council chairman Utemuratov. 15. (SBU) Zhukeyev predicted that Tuyakbay would benefit from very high support from ethnic Kazakhs, whose poverty rate is higher than the average. He added that FJK's western-oriented foreign policy platform would appeal to a large number of voters who are not pleased by the current pro-Russian, pro-Chinese position. (Comment: Polling, including USG polling, suggests the opposite: Russia is far more highly regarded by the populace than the U.S. or other western countries.) 16. (C) A/S Fried told Tuyakbay that the U.S. was confident that authoritarianism would not win out in Central Asia. We expected Karimov to be isolated. President Nazarbayev still had the opportunity to leave a positive legacy as the leader who brought Kazakhstan to sovereignty and development. The U.S. will encourage him to make the tough decisions to do this. Tuyakbay responded by underscoring the need for as many international election observers as possible to ensure thorough coverage and to balance the "sympathetic" observers the GOK was actively recruiting. ORDWAY NNNN
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