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| Identifier: | 05TELAVIV5213 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05TELAVIV5213 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Tel Aviv |
| Created: | 2005-08-23 14:29:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL PGOV KWBG IS SETTLEMENTS ISRAELI |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 005213 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/23/2015 TAGS: PREL, PGOV, KWBG, IS, SETTLEMENTS, ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS, GOI EXTERNAL SUBJECT: SPIEGEL AND OCHA DISCUSS LOCATIONS TO EASE CLOSURES IN THE WEST BANK Classified By: Deputy Chief of Mission Gene Cretz for reasons 1.4 (b) a nd (d) 1. (SBU) Summary: Brigadier General (res.) Baruch Spiegel, Israeli Ministry of Defense (MOD) advisor, and David Shearer, head of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), on August 17 discussed the progress made by their technical teams on bridging the gap between the two organizations' count of IDF roadblocks and checkpoints in the West Bank. Spiegel and Shearer both reported that they are now within "40 roadblocks" of each other, and both have modified their counting methodologies. Shearer told Spiegel that there is still some difficulty of movement for Palestinians in some parts of the West Bank, and Spiegel offered to a do "pilot program" which would ease the closures regime in a part of the West Bank and allow the Palestinians to take over the security of that area. There was some disagreement, however, on which area of the West Bank would have the most impact, and Spiegel and Shearer decided to meet at a future date to negotiate a location. End summary. --------------------------- GOI Wants to Ease Obstacles --------------------------- 2. (SBU) Brigadier General (res.) Baruch Spiegel, Ministry of Defense (MOD) advisor, met with David Shearer, head of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), on August 17 to discuss the technical work the IDF and OCHA have done on roadblocks, checkpoints, and other obstacles in the West Bank, and to determine where to go from here. Spiegel started off the meeting noting that the GOI is interested in easing the Palestinians' movement from the West Bank to the Gaza Strip, and within the West Bank. He said this was important for the economic development and humanitarian status of the West Bank, but emphasized that the easing of closures depends on the security situation and the "day after" atmosphere, referring to the disengagement plan. Spiegel cited as an example the recent Netanya bombing to show the impact of the security environment, and explained that the IDF had increased closures around Tulkarm as a result of the bombing. He explained that the closures regime in the West Bank is under the control of the IDF Central Commander, who must respond immediately to alerts, and said that the connection between checkpoints, roadblocks, and access is "affected by the noise." Spiegel added that it is important for the IDF to have 100 percent transparency, however, and that he would be willing to explain why there have been increases in obstacles at any given time. -------------------------- Differences in Methodology -------------------------- 3. (SBU) Spiegel explained that prior to the technical meetings between OCHA and the IDF, the GOI's defense establishment had not counted empty watch towers, agricultural gates, open gates, back-to-back sites such as Beituniya, or external checkpoints. He commented that since the IDF has been meeting with OCHA, the IDF's numbers have increased to take these differences into account, and the disparity between OCHA's internal checkpoints and roadblocks is now about 40. As of July 2005, the IDF counts 270 roadblocks, nine "flying" checkpoints, 13 internal checkpoints, and 29 external checkpoints. 4. (SBU) Shearer responded that OCHA's new counting methodology had decreased OCHA's numbers significantly, and that he never thought they would get to within 40 checkpoints of each other. He explained to Spiegel that OCHA's numbers had been reduced by about 20 percent just by not counting staggered roadblocks on a road individually, and counting them as one roadblock instead. Shearer also said that OCHA had stopped counting trenches and ditches because people cross them anyway, and they do not serve the purpose of preventing movement. According to the map Shearer provided econoff, OCHA counted 364 roadblocks and checkpoints, and 20 "earth walls" as of July 30, 2005. (Note: The map does not specify exact numbers of roadblocks, or "flying," internal, or external checkpoints. End note). Sheared suggested one final technical meeting to try to bridge the small difference between the IDF and OCHA, to which Spiegel agreed. -------------------------------------- Movement in Some Areas Still a Problem -------------------------------------- 5. (SBU) Shearer continued that OCHA had noted a marked decrease in the number of closures in the Tapuach Junction area west of Ramallah because of the construction of the separation barrier, but remarked that movement around Nablus remains problematic, and that there is a significant disparity in OCHA's and the IDF's figures along Routes 5 and 465. Shearer commented that movement through Abu Dis to Bethlehem was also difficult, and that he expects the number of obstacles to decrease in the Gush Etzion bloc as the barrier is constructed there, as well as in the Yattah area south of Hebron. He said that while movement between villages and towns is better, the "key question is from big city to big city." ---------------------------------------- GOI Suggests Locations to Ease Closures, OCHA Has Different Ideas ---------------------------------------- 6. (SBU) Spiegel confirmed that there will be a reduction in closures in the Hebron area as the barrier is built there, and added that now that the technical work is almost finished, the GOI is ready to move on to the next stage and "speak about access." He offered the idea of a "pilot program" where the IDF would ease closures and expect the Palestinians to take responsibility for that particular area and coordinate with the IDF. "Let's be a little bit more optimistic that Abu Mazen can take responsibility," he said. Spiegel told Shearer he wants to work with the Palestinian Authority (PA), and help foster an environment where the Palestinians can take responsibility for an area because the PA must play a role. 7. (SBU) Spiegel suggested an easing of movement in the areas of Tarqumiya or Janin -- for easier access to the Gaza Strip and Tulkarm, respectively -- but said that,"to be realistic," there would not be a dramatic change around Nablus in the short-run. He explained that there would be a lot of changes in Jerusalem when the separation barrier is completed, and that the GOI would try to find a connection between Hebron, Bethlehem, Jerusalem, Ramallah, and Nablus, but in the near future they have to work on practical steps. 8. (SBU) Shearer suggested that a joint team sit down together to come up with ideas of places where closures could be eased for the Palestinians to take control. He explained that settlement roads were still a problem and maybe something around the Ariel bloc would work. Spiegel rejected this idea, saying that perhaps there are easier places to start, such as Jalameh, Reihan, or Tulkarm. Shearer pointed out that the economic impact in these areas would not be significant because Palestinian towns in the northern West Bank trade mostly with towns further north, around Afula, and the economic impact would be bigger if closures eased around Ramallah. -------------------------- Agree to Disagree, For Now -------------------------- 9. (SBU) Spiegel again said this would be problematic, "to do it in a big way." He explained that "to give it a chance of success from the beginning," the easing of closures should be done in a place like Janin where there is less friction with settlers, or perhaps south of Gush Etzion. Shearer said OCHA would consider this and would present Spiegel with ideas of where to go from here because OCHA wants the most economic impact and needs to study and compare locations around the West Bank. He said he would be in touch with Spiegel's office soon to set a meeting to discuss further removal of obstacles. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** KURTZER
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