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| Identifier: | 05BAGHDAD2909 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05BAGHDAD2909 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Baghdad |
| Created: | 2005-07-11 10:03:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PGOV PHUM KDEM IZ Shia Islamists Kurdistan Islamic Union |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 BAGHDAD 002909 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/11/2025 TAGS: PGOV, PHUM, KDEM, IZ, Shia Islamists, Kurdistan Islamic Union SUBJECT: KURDS' SHAWAYS AND SHIA PARLIAMENTARIAN DAOUD AGREE AND DISAGREE ON CONSTITUTION ISSUES Classified By: Charge d' Affaires David M. Satterfield for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d) 1. (C) SUMMARY. In separate meetings with DPM Rosch Shaways and TNA member Qassim Daoud on July 8, the Charge pressed home USG concerns that the constitution might delineate central and regional government revenue and ownership sharing of the nation's natural resources. Charge explained that depriving the central government of ownership and revenues of the natural resources could jeopardize Iraq's commitments with international financial institutions. Toeing the Kurdish line, DPM Shaways was unresponsive, while Daoud appeared poised to reconsider his support for joint ownership and revenue sharing. Shaways and Daoud both fretted that Sunni members would try to sabotage the committee proceedings. Daoud also sought USG help on checking Kurdish demands on federalism and Kirkuk. Daoud also predicted the Shia List would not hold for the next elections and that Allawi would get no more than ten seats. END SUMMARY. 2. (C/NF) Charge d'Affaires Satterfield addressed constitutional issues in meetings with Deputy Prime Minister and KDP member Rosch Shaways and Transitional National Assembly constitution committee member Qassim Daoud July 8. --------------------------------------------- ------ Warding off Possible Sunni Sabotage of the August 15 Deadline --------------------------------------------- ------ 3. (C/NF) Daoud told the Charge he is less optimistic about meeting the 15 August deadline now with the additional Sunni members on the committee, given their "unreasonable" positions on federalism, Kirkuk, and the identity of Iraq. The committee as a whole has had three meetings and will divide the new Sunni members among the subcommittees on July 9. Daoud cautioned that the committee must continue working towards the 15 August deadline--"a holy day"-- despite the problems with Sunnis. He fears some Sunnis will attempt to sabotage the process by withdrawing. Others, such as Iraqi Islamic Party Ayed Samarai'e and National Dialogue Council's Saleh al-Mutlak, will probably stay, according to Daoud. (Note: Daoud said he is a long-time friend of Mutlak and can use his personal ties to pressure him on key issues.) Daoud related how he had highlighted to the Sunnis that there is no steathily prepared draft constitution written by the US, UK, or Israelis, a popular conspiracy theory. -------------------------------------------- Sunnis Clash on Arab Identity and Federalism -------------------------------------------- 4. (C/NF) Sunni Arabs are insisting Iraq be defined as an Arab nation, which Daoud claims is unfair to the Kurds and other minorities. Daoud also said the Sunni members are completely unrealistic about federalism and do not at all accept its principles, preferring a strongly centralized system. (Note: Daoud is a member of the federalism subcommittee.) Daoud mentioned Ayatollah Sistani's reservations about federalism stem from Sistani's concern that small, autonomous Shia regions will be more susceptible to Iranian interference in the south. Sistani reportedly would prefer one single southern region in order to forge a stronger area. Shaways, on the other hand, told the Charge he favors a highly decentralized federal structure, in which the "real power" in the country is at the regional or governorate level. He warned that the Sunni Arabs already were expressing reservations about federalism and there could be big problems on this point. Shaways mentioned in passing that the Kurds don't much care if there is a single Shia region within a federal Iraq or several smaller regions. (Comment: we will check to see if other Kurdish leaders are as nonchalant about this question. End Comment.) ------------------------------------ Charge Warns on Regions and Revenues ------------------------------------ 5. (C/NF) Shaways and Daoud separately told the Charge they supported a "shared ownership and revenue arrangement" of natural resources between the central and regional governments. The Charge made clear that the USG and the international community strongly believe that revenue and ownership of Iraq's natural resources "belong to the Iraqi nation". Putting a constitutional straight jacket over the ownership of the resources and revenues would complicate Iraq's future relations with the international financial community. It would be preferable to have revenue-sharing undertaken as part of a normal budget process. Shaways listened to the Charge's comments but offered no substantive response. Daoud, for his part, replied, "You have convinced me." and said that he would press the matter with the rest of the committee. --------------------------------------------- ------- Constitution Committee Leaning Towards Parliamentary System --------------------------------------------- ------- 6. (C/NF) Shaways told the Charge he preferred a parliamentary form of government with the parliament electing the president and prime minister. He recommended that the Presidency Council remain a three-member group but that it have more authority than the TAL now provides them. Daoud also said the committee is leaning towards a parliamentary system with a strong prime minister and fewer powers for the president than the current setup. Daoud believed Iraq's diverse nature requires a diffuse system, because it provides more positions for more factions. (Comment: Shaways' preference is logical given the Kurds' minority status. End Comment.) --------------- Kirkuk: Sticky --------------- 7. (C/NF) Daoud asked the US to help push Kurds to be reasonable about their "place in Iraq", Kirkuk, and federalism. The Kurds are overstepping their bounds on the KRG's authorities, positions in central government, and geographic area, reaching into traditional Arab regions, such as Ninewa province, he claimed. Daoud noted that during the week of the Brussels Conference, when much of the Iraqi leadership was out of Baghdad, Iraq had a Kurdish President (Talabani), a Kurdish Prime Minister (acting PM Shaways), Foreign Minister and Kurdish Army chief of Staff. The Charge responded that we are pressing Kurds on their commitments to Iraq and the process. 8. (C/NF) Daoud also noted Sistani's view on the Kurds and Kirkuk. Daoud said Sistani had originally asked Allawi to join the combined Shia list before the last elections so the Shia could present a united front to more effectively limit Kurdish demands. The Kurds are pressing for Kirkuk's settlement ahead of the constitution and next elections, complained Daoud. The Charge urged that TAL Article 58 language be the basis for the resolution. 9. (C) Shaways separately told the Charge he believed Shia Arabs were not energized about Kirkuk. He thought they could stay in Kirkuk after the city passes to KRG control if they wanted. Shaways did not raise the importance of finalizing Kirkuk's status immediately. Instead, he said the new constitution should contain the Article 58 language verbatim. Charge pressed Shaways on standing up the Kirkuk provincial government by bringing in genuinely representative Turkman and Arab leaders into the top Kirkuk leadership, along with the Kurdish governor. It was important, the Charge underlined, to let the Arabs choose their own representative. Shaways did not argue the point and pledged he would talk to KRG President Masood Barzani. --------------------------------------------- -------- Daoud on Electoral System and Political Alliances for the Next Elections --------------------------------------------- -------- 10. (C/NF) As he has in previous meetings, Daoud mentioned Sistani's and his own preference for multiple district elections rather than a single district. Daoud said the IECI was pushing back, complaining there was not enough time. Daoud believed pressure from Sistani might change their tune, however. Daoud envisioned SCIRI going it alone in the next elections, while Fadhilah, Da'wa-Tanzim, and some Sadrists would form an Islamist bloc. Da'wa-Ja'fari party could be on its own. Chalabi would probably align with Sadrists and possibly even the Islamist bloc. Allawi would be a non-player in the next elections, at most scoring ten seats, opined Daoud. Allawi was pairing with small figures such as Chederchi and Pachachi. Daoud claimed Allawi showed his true colors as a man who does not like to lose his grip on power after the last elections and has disappointed the people. 11. (C/NF) Comment: On some broad issues, such as Iraq's identity and federalism as a principle, we sense much Kurd-Shia agreement. That said, it is noteworthy that while Shaways doubted there was much Shia concern about Kirkuk, Qassim Daoud underlined that Kirkuk could be a sticking point. Other Shia parliamentarians tell us the same thing. Our conclusion is that either the Kurds are tone deaf or the various negotiators have not yet really entered really detailed discussions on Kirkuk and structure of government. We are taking every opportunity to press home the message on revenue and ownership-sharing of natural resources. Shaways, not surprisingly, offered no comments, given the position directly conflicts with the Kurds' own. We hope to meet with Masud Barzani directly in the next week to deliver the same message. Daoud appears to have been convinced and could exert some leverage on members of the committee, but we are raising this issue now with political leaders on all sides. Few seem to have thought much about the different angles of the issue yet, but our position is now understood by many of the constitution drafters. End Comment 12. (U) REO HILLA, REO BASRA, REO MOSUL, and REO KIRKUK, minimize considered. Satterfield
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