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| Identifier: | 05BAGHDAD2872 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05BAGHDAD2872 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Baghdad |
| Created: | 2005-07-08 13:40:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL//NOFORN |
| Tags: | PREL PGOV MOPS PTER IZ Parliament |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BAGHDAD 002872 SIPDIS NOFORN E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/08/2025 TAGS: PREL, PGOV, MOPS, PTER, IZ, Parliament SUBJECT: TALABANI TO CODEL LEVIN: CONSTITUTION CAN BE READY ON TIME Classified By: Political Counselor Robert Ford. Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D). 1. (C) SUMMARY. In his July 6 meeting with CODEL Levin, President Talabani predicted that the constitution could be completed on time as long as the constitution committee uses the Transitional Administrative Law (TAL) as the basis. He also favored using the same single-district electoral system for the next elections. Talabani noted detainees in U.S. and Iraqi custody continue to pose problems; he opined that many are innocent and languishing in prison. Talabani will decline Syria's invitation to visit Damascus unless Syria first takes concrete steps to condemn terrorism, control infiltration, and seize Iraqi Ba'athist's financial assets in Syria. Talabani underscored the need for a comprehensive agreement to draw down Coalition troops as Iraqi troops stand up. END SUMMARY. --------------------------------------------- ----- Constitution Must Be Based on TAL To Make Deadline --------------------------------------------- ----- 2. (C/NF) President Talabani told Levin July 6 the constitution could be completed on time as long as it is based on the Transitional Administrative Law. Although he praised the process as now more inclusive with the additional Sunni members, Talabani feared the Sunnis would push for a greater emphasis on Islam--as the "main source" rather than "a source" of law. Federalism is accepted by all and will likely be applied to other parts of Iraq besides the North, noted Talabani. He said Ayatollah Ali as-Sistani reportedly prefers a strong, single federal region in the south to guard against Iranian interference. ---------------------------------------- Prefers Single District Electoral System ---------------------------------------- 3. (C/NF) Talabani said he favored a single district vice multiple district structure for the next elections, thus keeping the system used in the January 2005 elections. Talabani believed minorities, such as the Yezidis and Christians (and arguably the Kurds, although he did not mention them) would fare better in a national list so they could pool their votes. Talabani also opined that elections are the best way to redress the limited Sunni Arab participation in the process. Sunni Arab community cleavages make it difficult to discern representative leaders. The only established representative is the Iraqi Islamic Party, continued Talabani, however not all Sunnis not accept them. Further, the government's discussions and negotiations with the newly formed National Dialogue Council had raised the ire of many tribal shaykhs and various groups who complained the group does not represent Sunni Arabs. Sunni Arabs constantly complain about the needs of ex-military officers, observed Talabani. He added that Sunnis needed jobs programs and other assistance. ---------------------------------------- Languishing Detainees, Poor Coordination ---------------------------------------- 4. (C/NF) Talabani noted the detainee issue was a frequent problem coming to his attention. British Parliamentarian and human rights envoy Ann Clywd often sends him letters of the status of various detainees. Talabani complained many detainees are innocent and languishing in prison. Talabani averred the Minister of Justice is new and learning, but the processes of detainee transfers from the USG to ITG and of trials are slow and require better coordination. Talabani said he met yesterday with Janabi tribal leaders and subsequently requested the release without trial of the tribal leaders' list of 150 individuals. To Levin's expression of concern about the issue of a release without proper trial, Talabani replied, "There is nothing against these individuals". ----------------------------------------- Talabani on Syrian President's Invitation ----------------------------------------- 5. (C/NF) Talabani said Syrian President Bashar invited him to Damascus, a proposal he is considering. He explained that he would not make such a trip unless Syria promised to deliver in three areas. First, Syria must change the tune of its media to one that condemns terrorism and supports the Iraq's democratic process. Second, Talabani wants "deeds, not words"; Syria must take concrete steps to control infiltration from along the border. Third, Syria must cooperate and seize financial assets (e.g., funds in the hands of Baathists) belonging to the Iraqi government that are in Syria. Talabani mentioned the large amount of Ba'thists working from there. The Syrians are pledging to take action and issue a joint communiqu7 of cooperation. (Note: Talabani's Chief of Staff later told PolCouns that he was dubious Syria's verbal commitment would translate into actions. End Note.) --------------------------------------------- ---- Need for Comprehensive Plan for Transition to ISF --------------------------------------------- ---- 6. (C/NF) Responding to Levin's question about the presence of Coalition troops, Talabani said that a transition to Iraqi security forces must be done according to Iraqi readiness and not pressure from terrorists. Talabani admitted to not knowing the status of Iraqi forces or their ability to take over security in cities, but opined it would be better for Coalition troops to leave the cities. Talabani believed a real status of forces agreement should wait until the next government, but he acknowledged there must be a comprehensive plan to stand up Iraqi troops as Coalition troops stand down. 7. (C/NF) Talabani preferred the U.S. remain in Iraq to ensure the continuation of the democratic process since many Sunni Arabs are hoping to bring back a dictatorship. Coalition troops help prevent international interference, he added. "The neighbors are already interfering; imagine how much worse it would be if you left?" However, Talabani appealed for Coalition troops to be more careful in dealing with the people. The President cited the case of a recent prominent individual and friend of Talabani's, who was shot at a Coalition checkpoint, but they had avoided publicizing the incident to avoid embarrassing the Coalition. 8. (C/NF) Finally, Levin sought Talabani views on capital punishment. Talabani admitted he was personally opposed to the death penalty--which would almost certainly cause him a problem with the Saddam trial. Talabani added that he had been a lawyer who had worked extensively with the International Committee for the Red Cross. 9. (U) REO HILLA, REO BASRA, REO MOSUL, and REO KIRKUK, minimize considered. Satterfield
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