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| Identifier: | 05BEIRUT2153 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05BEIRUT2153 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Beirut |
| Created: | 2005-06-30 14:59:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL KDEM PTER LE SY |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
O 301459Z JUN 05 FM AMEMBASSY BEIRUT TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8545 INFO ARAB LEAGUE COLLECTIVE PRIORITY EU MEMBER STATES COLLECTIVE PRIORITY NSC WASHDC PRIORITY HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY
C O N F I D E N T I A L BEIRUT 002153 NSC FOR ABRAMS/DANIN/POUNDS E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/30/2020 TAGS: PREL, KDEM, PTER, LE, SY SUBJECT: THE NEW AND IMPROVED NABIH BERRI SAYS THE RIGHT THING ON REFORM, NEED FOR QUIET ALONG BLUE LINE REF: BEIRUT 2104 Classified By: Jeffrey Feltman, Ambassador, per 1.4 (b) and (d). SUMMARY ------- 1. (C) Newly re-elected Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri, opening a 6/30 meeting with the Ambassador, growled about alleged USG attempts to "veto" his candidacy. But after this initial scratchy start, Berri turned uncharacteristically friendly and polemics-free, saying he wanted to set aside politics to talk realities: Lebanon must have reform. Lebanon will need assistance in that reform. U.S. and international community support, even conditional, is needed and welcome. Responding to the Ambassador's questions about the seriousness of his new-found advocacy of reform, Berri said (twice), "just watch me," vowing that Parliament will be active in keeping the government publicly accountable. On cabinet formation, Berri said that the Hizballah-Amal bloc "should" get six seats of a 24-member cabinet but would accept five only. Claiming that he wanted to schedule the cabinet's vote of confidence "immediately," he worried that President Lahoud would delay cabinet approval. Berri rejected the Ambassador's complaints about his references to U.S. encouragement of Palestinian settlement in Lebanon, and he highlighted the fact that he had not explicitly criticized UNSCR 1559 in his Parliamentary address. Berri thought that UNSCR 1559 implementation should start with action against Palestinian militants, not Hizballah. On actions in the south, Berri, while repeating the familiar (and tiresome) Lebanese claims to Sheba'a Farms, agreed that Hizballah should not provoke the situation. He promised to use his influence in an attempt to calm the blue line. End summary. "WHY DID YOU WANT TO VETO ME?" ------------------------------ 2. (C) In a 6/30 meeting with the Ambassador, newly elected Parliament Speaker Berri initially went into his characteristic attack mode: why had the USG attempted to veto his candidacy? It must be so, Berri said, since the Lebanese press has reported it. Expressing astonishment that Berri believed what he read in Lebanese papers, the Ambassador responded that the USG was supporting a process by which the Lebanese, not foreigners, choose their leaders. The USG hopes that the Lebanese will choose leaders who can produce the types of reforms the Lebanese people want and need, but it is not up to us to say who those leaders should be. After some back-and-forth needling, Berri accepted the Ambassador's words by offering chocolates wrapped in a portrait of the Speaker himself (which can be removed and used as a sticker, allowing images of Berri's smiling face to be affixed conveniently to any surface). "And you think I'm not sweet?" Berri cracked to the startled Ambassador. THE BORN-AGAIN REFORMER ----------------------- 3. (C) Berri said that he wanted to put politics aside and "not repeat my positions and you repeat your positions." Claiming to speak candidly, he said that he was serious in his Parliamentary address when he emphasized the need for reform (reftel). He vowed to oversee an activist Parliament that holds regular committee and full plenary sessions on government performance. The Parliament must be the "public watchdog," Berri said, emphasizing public accountability. The Ambassador noted that Berri was describing a far different Parliament than the one he had overseen before, and he asked Berri about the general skepticism that greeted Berri's public references to reform. "Just watch me," Berri said, vowing to push through reform. Lebanon very much needs U.S. and international support for its reform program. The Ambassador cautioned Berri that he should expect that, given the experience of Paris II, Lebanon should expect that any international support will be conditional on the implementation of reforms. Of course, Berri responded, "and we will do it." 4. (C) The Ambassador asked Berri why he was suddenly a convert to the cause of reforms. "I have always been with reforms!" Berri, in a facts-be-damned moment, insisted. Before, there was no reason to try to push for reform, given the fights between Prime Minister Hariri and President Lahoud and the intervention of the Syrians. Nothing as possible. But now, the Syrian withdrawal makes everything possible. The Syrians can no longer block change. "People say I'm pro-Syrian," Berri complained. "But who wasn't? We had to be!" Berri said that he will "never" be "anti-Syrian." He said that Lebanon cannot be ruled from Syria, but, likewise, Lebanon cannot be ruled as an enemy of Syria. The Ambassador said that the USG looked forward to working with genuine reformers, but he cautioned that we will base on our assessments on actual reform. "I said, just watch me," Berri said. He noted that he would be giving his "first" interview on Lebanese television in more than a decade later that evening, "and you'll hear me talk about reform." QUICK CABINET FORMATION NEEDED, WITH FIVE SEATS TO AMAL-HIZBALLAH --------------------------------- 5. (C) The Ambassador asked Berri about the cabinet formation. Berri said that he expected Fouad Siniora would be tapped by mid-afternoon as the Prime Minister-designate. He said that he strongly supported quick government formation -- "we need this immediately!" -- and would be willing to call Parliament into session as early as Saturday (7/2) for a vote of confidence, if Siniora could be ready by that time. "We can't afford a vacuum," Berri said (without a hint of shame that he had closed down Parliament since February, single-handedly creating a legislative vacuum). But he did not think the cabinet formation would move that quickly. He expected there to be a "war of the 'thirds,'" with President Lahoud "fighting for the right" to name at least one-third of the cabinet members. Berri said that he would not insist on the traditional Speaker's "one-third." Instead, he would use the ratio of Hizballah-Amal's electoral strength of 33 seats (out of 128) in the Parliament. This means that Hizballah and Amal should have one-quarter of the cabinet seats, or 6 in a 24-member cabinet. But, to give Sa'ad Hariri more flexibility, Hizballah and Amal together will ask for only five seats, Berri said. Michel Aoun, with 21 MPs (including his allies), should have three or four seats. The Ambassador noted that the Speaker was assuming that Siniora intended to form a national unity govenrment. What would the Speaker do if Siniora attempted to form a majority cabinet with only his electoral allies? Berri said that Siniora was not thinking about this option and that Lebanon was not "ready" for this, "not yet." Berri said that he also advocated having a cabinet of "professionals," not MPs, but he conceded that Siniora was likely to include at least some MPs. U.S. SUPPORT FOR PALESTINIAN "IMPLANTATION," AND UNSCR 1559 -- NOT-SO-SUBTLE NUANCES ------------------------------------------- 6. (C) Turning back to Berri's speech before the Parliament (reftel), the Ambassador said that the U.S. was weary and annoyed at having to deny repeatedly the canard that U.S. policy is aimed at settling the Palestinian refugees permanently in Lebanon. Berri knows very well that this is not the case, the Ambassador said, and we were not happy to hear him raise this allegation again. "I never said that it was U.S. policy!" Berri responded. "You didn't listen to me!" Producing a copy of his speech, Berri repeated the paragraph in question, which warned of waves from the U.S. Congress and European parliaments promoting this idea. Berri said that we could not "deny" that U.S. Congressional representatives, "including that one last summer" (i.e., Christopher Shays), had said that the GOL should give the Palestinians citizenship. Berri said that his worry was that congressional statements could easily become U.S. policy, so he needed to issue a warning loudly and clearly. Asking Berri to drop all public discussions of the fictitious U.S. support for Palestinian implantation, the Ambassador said that he doubted many people understood the separation of powers in the U.S. Government as well as Berri seemed to. 7. (C) Berri also urged the Ambassador to review his speech to recognize that there was "no reference at all" to UNSCR 1559. Berri said that "you know" he rejects UNSCR 1559. But, out of deference to Lebanon's traditional respect to international law, he did not explicitly complain about UNSCR 1559. The Ambassador responded that his implied words were clear enough and not welcomed. Sounding more curious than argumentative, Berri asked the Ambassador how the USG would "force" the implementation of UNSCR 1559, when sending the Lebanese Armed Forces against Hizballah would surely destabilize the country. The Ambassador responded that the international community did not want to see Lebanon destabilized. Yet we did not want the fear of destabilization to lead to paralysis when it comes to UNSCR 1559. Ideally, rather than imposing an external solution, we would like to support and encourage a serious Lebanese process aimed at implementing UNSCR 1559. But the ongoing clashes in the Sheba'a Farms area demonstrates the importance of UNSCR 1559 implementation. Berri mused that "maybe we can start with" taking some kind of action against Ahmed Jibril's PFLP-GC. SHEBA'A CLASHES: BERRI PROMISES TO TRY TO HELP CALM SITUATION -------------------------------- 8. (C) Berri then asked the Ambassador what he knew about the clashes in the Sheba'a Farms area. While emphasizing that he was still working from initial reports, the Ambassador noted that it seemed as though the clashes began with an infiltration by Hizballah members south of the Blue Line. Berri did not dispute this interpretation and said that he generally "trusted" UNIFIL's chronology and analysis more than either Israel's or Hizballah's. Berri and the Ambassador then sketched out maps to illustrate what each thought had happened at Sheba'a. Berri said that, while he believed firmly that Sheba'a Farms belongs to Lebanon, he was opposed to any provocations that could expose Lebanon to Israeli retaliation. Presented with several theories by the Ambassador about what Hizballah's motives were, Berri said, in seeming candor, that he did not know exactly why Hizballah would decide to move now, "but there might be many reasons." In any case Berri agreed that it was important to calm the area, and he promised to use what influence he has in getting Hizballah to observe a cease fire. Asked by the Ambassador about the impact of Iranian elections on Hizballah, Berri commented that Hizballah members "are celebrating." He promised to "talk about Iran" with the Ambassador at a later date. 9. (C) The Ambassador asked Berri why Hizballah Secretary General Nasrallah was now trying to reopen the 1923 borders by making reference to the "seven villages" lost to Palestine when the French and British Mandate authorities charted Lebanon's southern border. Berri described the "seven villages" argument as a "joke" that the "Lebanese won't accept." The Ambassador pointed out that Walid Jumblatt and even Berri himself had echoed Nasrallah's claim to the "seven villages." Berri went into a long monologue about land ownership in 1923 to argue that, indeed, the "seven villages" were Lebanese. But Berri said that he was opposed to re-opening 1923 borders. COMMENT ------- 10. (C) While we have no illusions about his sincerity, the new and improved Nabih Berri is certainly a more tolerable interlocutor than the previous, unpleasantly polemical model. Let us hope that Berri was shocked into more constructive positions by the quantity and ferocity of publicly stated opposition to his return as Speaker. His talk of public accountability was unexpected music to our ears. He'll probably continue to sing a pleasant reform tune for some time, but we -- and the Lebanese people -- will remain skeptical until we see improved performance in the Parliament and in his own behavior. We suspect, however, that he will continue to use objectionable language about Hizballah and the Blue Line, and we are bracing ourselves for his television appearance tonight. FELTMAN
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