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| Identifier: | 05BANGKOK2743 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05BANGKOK2743 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Bangkok |
| Created: | 2005-04-21 10:32:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | MASS MARR PREL PGOV TH IRAQ Southern Thailand BURMA POL |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BANGKOK 002743 SIPDIS DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV DEFENSE FOR OSD/ISA (POWERS AND STERN). PLEASE PASS TO DSCA/AP (NMORGAN) PACOM FOR FPA HUSO E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/20/2015 TAGS: MASS, MARR, PREL, PGOV, TH, IRAQ, Southern Thailand, BURMA, POL/MIL SUBJECT: AMBASSASOR DISCUSSES SECURITY ISSUES WITH DEFMIN: SOUTH THAILAND, OIF, F-16 ET AL. REF: BANGKOK 2010 Classified By: Ambassador Ralph L. Boyce. Reason 1.4 (a and d) 1. (C) In an April 20 meeting with the Ambassador, Defense Minister Gen. Thamarak Isarangura Na Ayutthaya welcomed the recent Iraqi elections and noted his long-held belief that setting up the Iraqi Government will reduce anti-American violence there. The Ambassador noted keen interest in Washington in having Thailand renew its support of OIF. Thamarak stated that much of the unrest in the predominately Muslim far southern part of Thailand could be reduced by improving education and social programs there. He also noted the need to expose southerners to the rest of the country saying it was more important for Thai soldiers from the far south to be posted in other, more developed parts of the country, than it was to have them posted closer to home. Thamarak said that, on an official level, Thailand's relations with Malaysia are good, but acknowledged problems at the local level where illicit trade often fosters corruption. The Ambassador expressed his condolences over the recent killing of a Thai Border Patrol officer along the Burmese border. Thamarak noted the hazard of serving along the Thai-Burma border and the violence caused by Wa Deng, Shan State and Burmese regular forces. The Ambassador made a strong pitch for Thailand to select F-16 block 52 in its upcoming fighter purchase. In response to Thamarak suggesting that the financial aspects of the fighter deal are the most important, the Ambassador reminded Thamarak that Lockheed Martin is offering 100 percent offsets as part of its package. END SUMMARY. IRAQ 2. (C) Thamarak began the meeting by congratulating the United States on helping to bring about a fair election in Iraq. He told the Ambassador that he had been a long advocate of quickly turning over power to the Iraqis and suggested that anti-American violence in Iraq should decrease as a result. The Ambassador noted keen U.S. interest in having Thailand renew its commitment to help in Iraq, perhaps by sending staff officers to man the international headquarters for OIF. VIOLENCE IN THE SOUTH 3. (C) Turning to the continued violence in Thailand's southernmost region, Thamarak noted the danger of outside influences in the south like Wahhabism and expressed his personal belief that the best long-term solution to the problem is to improve social services and the education system in southern Thailand. He said that the Peacekeeping and Prosperity Command is working well, but still sorting out roles and duties. In response to the Ambassador's question whether local Muslim soldiers are in Thai Army units serving in the south, Thamarak said that some are, but went on to say that he thought more young men from the South serving in the Royal Thai Army would benefit by serving in other parts of Thailand and learning the importance of modernization and development. THAI-MALAYSIA BORDER ISSUES 4. (C) Thamarak claimed that official relations between Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur were quite good. Nonetheless, the situation on the border was cause for concern. Given the large amount of illegal border traffic, corruption and graft are major concerns, he noted. BURMA 5. (C) The Ambassador offered his condolences for the recent killing of a Thai Border Police officer serving along the Burmese border. Thamarak noted the difficulties Thai officers have serving along -- facing possible violence from the Wa Deng, the Shan State Army and Burmese regulars. He also pointed out geographic anomalies that sometimes cause parts of Thai territory along the border to be bordered on three sides by Burma. Sometimes, Thais living or serving in those areas are killed in cross-fire between rival Burmese groups. The Ambassador pointed out that RTG policy towards Burma is not well-received in the West, where it is sometimes construed as propping up Rangoon's junta. Thamarak acknowledged this but pointed out that critics don't live in Thailand's neighborhood. F-16 6. (C) The Ambassador made a strong case for Thailand selecting F-16 in its upcoming planned purchase of 18 new fighters. Thamarak noted that F-16 was the preferred candidate of most RTAF officers over rivals SAAB Gripen and Sukhoi SU-30, but that the RTG had little money for the purchase and would thus be most influenced by the financial aspects of any possible deal. The Ambassador seized on this point and reminded Thamarak that Lockheed Martin was prepared to offer 100 percent commercial offsets to assist with the fighter purchase. BOYCE
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