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| Identifier: | 05TELAVIV1730 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05TELAVIV1730 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Tel Aviv |
| Created: | 2005-03-22 16:12:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | OREP PGOV PTER KWBG MNUC IS IR SY ISRAELI |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 TEL AVIV 001730 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/22/2015 TAGS: OREP, PGOV, PTER, KWBG, MNUC, IS, IR, SY, ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS, ECONOMY AND FINANCE, GOI EXTERNAL SUBJECT: SHARON CAUTIONS CODEL REID ON PROVIDING DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO THE PA Classified By: Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer for reasons 1.4 (b,d). 1. (C) Summary: Prime Minister Sharon emphasized to Codel Reid March 21 that ensuring Israel's security against terrorism is his primary objective, although he is optimistic about the opportunities created by Arafat's death and the new Palestinian leadership. Codel Reid and Sharon discussed how best to assist Palestinian Authority President Abbas; the dangers presented by Iran, Syria, and terrorist organizations; the Israeli economy; and other issues. Sharon noted that he is willing to cooperate with Abbas and PA Finance Minister Fayyad to address Palestinian economic development. Sharon and his office director general, Ilan Cohen, advised the senators to target USG assistance to the Palestinians toward infrastructure, private industry and housing, and urged that the USG require the PA to demonstrate accountability for any direct assistance it receives. End Summary. 2. (U) The delegation, consisting of Senators Harry Reid, Richard Durbin, Barbara Boxer, Patty Murray, Robert Bennett, Lamar Alexander, and Ken Salazar, and Senate staff, was accompanied by Ambassador Kurtzer and poloff notetaker. Prime Minister Sharon was joined by Foreign Policy Advisor Shalom Tourgeman, Office Director General Ilan Cohen, Press Advisor Ra'anan Gissin, MFA Deputy Director General for North American Affairs Yoram Ben Ze'ev, and MFA Congressional Affairs Advisor in Washington Alon Ushpiz. --------------------------------- No Progress Without End to Terror --------------------------------- 3. (C) Codel Reid and Prime Minister Sharon stressed the strong U.S.-Israel friendship and mutual hopes for security and peace in the region. Senator Reid began the meeting by asking for Sharon's views on advancing cooperation with Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas and Sharon's prospects for passing the 2005 budget. Sharon joked that passing the U.S. budget is certainly an easier task than passing Israel's budget. 4. (C) Sharon's main message throughout the meeting was that, while he is open to cooperating with, and taking steps to support, Palestinian President Abbas, Abbas must combat terrorism or such cooperation will fail. Sharon repeatedly stressed that he will not make any compromises on Israel's security. "Israel is a tiny, small, country," Sharon emphasized, "with a courageous people... It is the only place in the world where Jews have the right to defend themselves." Sharon underlined that the most important thing for him is that he is a Jew. "On the one hand," he underlined, "I am willing to compromise, but not when it comes to terror... I tell my friends, 'don't pressure us when it comes to our security -- only we determine what is necessary.'" Sharon emphasized that "If terrorism continues, we won't move forward... that's the situation." The USG repeats the same message "again and again," he commented. 5. (C) Sharon explained that he initiated a unilateral disengagement plan, which he called a "pre-roadmap phase," because he believed at the time that a Palestinian partner did not exist. After Arafat's death, he noted, cooperation with the Palestinians is more feasible, but he emphasized that the PA must honor its commitments to the roadmap. "I believe we can progress," Sharon repeatedly stressed, "if the Palestinian Authority fights terror, dismantles terrorist organizations, collects weapons, and ceases incitement against Israel." Sharon assessed that incitement has decreased, but he asserted that mosques still incite against Israel and "in schools (they are) poisoning kids (beginning in) kindergarten" against Israel. ---------------------------------- Terror Organizations Still Operate ---------------------------------- 6. (C) The incidence of terrorism has recently declined, Sharon said, but he added that the threat continues. He noted that weapons smuggling across the border from Egypt to Gaza continues and that Abbas has not taken steps to dismantle Hamas. Sharon claimed that in the last two weeks, five anti-aircraft missiles were found being smuggled in tunnels. Sharon said he spoke with Egyptian President Mubarak two days ago and asked Mubarak to take more serious steps against smuggling. He added that the "Palestinian military industry works day and night without rest." Sharon stressed that he is willing to give the PA a chance, but he has not yet seen "any real improvements" in its fight against terror. Sharon expressed concern that Abbas is negotiating with Hamas for a cease-fire, which he noted could end at any time. He worries that if Hamas gains more authority within the PA, it will become impossible to dismantle that terrorist organization. ----------------- Helping Abbas ----------------- 7. (C) Emphasizing the positive changes since Arafat's death, Senator Durbin expressed concern that Hamas could upset this progress by receiving strong support in the July Palestinian Legislative Council elections. He asked Sharon how best to rally popular support for Abbas against Hamas, especially in the way of economic and developmental support to the Palestinian population. Sharon agreed that helping Abbas is important, but cautioned against providing direct financial assistance to the PA, charging that such support could also reach terrorist organizations since Abbas is "trying to buy them." Instead, Sharon advised, the USG should target assistance directly to infrastructure improvements, housing for refugees, desalination, and economic support for Palestinian private industry. In this respect, Sharon said, "Israel is ready to help." Sharon noted that he asked Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres, with whom the Codel met March 20 (septel), to "mobilize" funds to assist the Palestinians with economic development. Sharon also noted that he sent Peres to donor and Arab countries to request funding to assist the PA. Ilan Cohen added that the GOI is working with Palestinian Finance Minister Salam Fayyad to develop a PA social security system in order to replace Hamas assistance. 8. (C) Senator Durbin pressed Sharon as to how best to help Abbas before the July Palestinian Legislative Council elections. Senator Salazar also noted that the current window of opportunity could disappear quickly. Without providing a direct response, Sharon asserted that he does not believe Hamas will gain a majority in the July elections. He noted that the GOI has a "good relationship" with Abbas, but underlined that Abbas "made a major mistake" by "reaching out" to Hamas and negotiating with that organization. He asserted that once Abbas signs an agreement with Hamas, dismantling the organization will be difficult. Sharon noted that it is not a "normal situation" where you have a "serious partner in government" (i.e. Hamas) that is an armed organization. Sharon said that the GOI will not take "actions" during the period of quiet, but he expressed concern that terrorist groups will be using this period to rebuild, thereby placing Israel in a "difficult situation." 9. (C) Senator Murray asked Sharon to comment on any connection between poverty and terrorism and asked how the USG could effectively target its assistance to the PA. Sharon underlined that he "never found a direct connection between terror and poverty." Israel has examined this issue over the years, he said, and has found that suicide bombers come from diverse social and economic backgrounds, and are of all ages. On assistance, Sharon elaborated that the GOI is helping PA Minister Fayyad develop a social insurance program for Palestinians that would provide every poor Palestinian family with USD 100 per month. The mutual goal is to bring poorer families out from the influence of Hamas. Sharon advised the Codel to discuss this issue in more detail with Minister Fayyad, noting that "we know him well -- he's one of the more serious people (in the PA)." Senator Alexander asked Sharon how the USG can help the PA with reforms if it should avoid providing the PA with direct financial assistance. Cohen advised that the USG should require the PA to employ a "control system" to ensure that the assistance reaches its targets. Cohen urged that the USG make sure it is satisfied about this system before it provides assistance. ---------------------------------- Sharon: The Dangers of Iran, Syria ---------------------------------- 10. (C) Asked for his views on Iran, Sharon stressed that "(the GOI) know(s) for sure" that Iran is making "every effort" to develop nuclear weapons. Russia and China helped Iran develop ballistic missiles for a 1,300-to-1,500 kilometer range, and Iran is now developing missiles that have a 2,500 kilometer range, he asserted. "We should not compromise on Iran," Sharon underlined, advising that preparations should be made to bring the matter of Iran's nuclear program before the UNSC. Sharon characterized British, French, and German efforts as inadequate and called for political and economic pressure to be mounted against Iran. He expressed concern that the international community could become too accepting of Iran's nuclear program. 11. (C) Sharon also underlined the danger that Iran presents by calling it "the center of world terror." Iran provides Hizballah with military support, Sharon said, claiming that the latter currently has 30,000 rockets based in southern Lebanon. Sharon said that Iranian Revolutionary Guard members are in Lebanon and cooperate with the Lebanese army, the latter causing "daily friction" on Israel's northern border. Sharon stressed that he wants the Iranian Revolutionary Guard expelled from Lebanon and the rocket system in southern Lebanon dismantled. Iran is also trying to recruit Israeli Arabs to commit terrorist acts within Israel, Sharon said. While most of Israel's one million Arab citizens want to be integrated into Israel society, Sharon noted, a "small but growing minority" are active in terrorist groups. Sharon charged that an Israeli Arab transported the suicide bomber responsible for the February 25 terrorist attack at Tel Aviv's Stage discotheque. 12. (C) Sharon also underscored that Syria is facilitating Iranian support for Hizballah in southern Lebanon. He noted that Syria occupies Lebanon and claimed that some one million Syrian citizens are now working there. Sharon characterized Damascus as the "headquarters of terrorism," underlining that orders to commit terrorist activities come from Damascus and that reports on the results of such activities travel back there as well. 13. (C) Senator Boxer noted her "surprise" as one of the authors of the Syria Accountability Act that Vice Prime Minister Peres downplayed the military threat that Syria poses, with Peres noting that Syria has old equipment. Sharon responded that with his military background, he "always takes the other side seriously," asserting that "you can't say that Syria is not a danger." Sharon underlined that Syria is also supporting terrorism in Iraq and that it has "serious quantities of chemical weapons." Sharon added that the Syria Accountability Act is "very, very important." ------------------------------- Separation Barrier and Security ------------------------------- 14. (C) Asked to address the effect of the separation barrier, Sharon stressed that the GOI's goal in constructing the barrier was to enhance Israel's security. The fence is not a political border, he said, but rather a security border, which could be removed if the situation so warranted. Sharon noted that the separation barrier has "sharply reduced" the incidence of terrorism in Israel. The GOI considers the humanitarian needs of the Palestinians when routing the fence, he said, and has rerouted several areas to alleviate hardships. He made clear, however, that faced with the choice of paying with Israeli lives or creating difficulties for the Palestinians, he will choose the latter. ----------------------------------- Sharon: Will Solve "Budget Problem" ----------------------------------- 15. (C) Turning to internal politics, Sharon asserted that the Israeli Left could never achieve disengagement, but added that he "lost his (coalition) majority" because the Right is working against disengagement. Nonetheless, Sharon emphasized, he remains fully committed to the plan as well as its timeframe. "Now the budget is a problem," Sharon said, noting that if the budget does not pass (by March 31), elections will be mandated within 90 days. Elections would postpone disengagement's implementation, Sharon said, and would cause "a complicated, unnecessary situation." He pointed out that because the budget has not yet passed, compensation can not yet be provided for thousands of evacuees, many of whom, he claimed, would have moved already had compensation been available. Despite the difficulties, Sharon opined that he would be able to solve the budget problem within the coming week. ----------------- Economy Improving ----------------- 16. (C) Senator Bennett stressed his interest in the continued strengthening of Israel's economy. He noted that he was impressed with Finance Minister Netanyahu's Washington presentation showing how Israel's economy continues to progress toward a free market system. (Note: Senator Bennett did not indicate when this presentation took place.) Senator Bennett encouraged Sharon to continue in this direction, noting that if Israel's economy is not strong, it will be harder for Israel to fund critical security measures. Sharon noted that the changes have been difficult, and there continues to be poverty and unemployment, but expressed confidence that Israel is moving in the right direction. Cohen noted that the rate of inflation has been reduced to 9.9 percent and that the GOI is taking a serious approach to reaching targets in public expenditure reductions. ------------------------- Threat to Al-Aqsa Mosque ------------------------- 17. (C) Senator Boxer noted that when the Codel toured the Temple Mount, which includes the al-Aqsa Mosque, the tour guide charged that Israel intends to assert authority over the area in order to build a Jewish temple in its place. She asked Sharon how widespread this belief is among the Israeli-Arab and Palestinian Muslim populations. Sharon stressed the importance of the Temple Mount for Jews as well, but underlined that the GOI has no intention "whatsoever" to gain control of the Temple Mount area. Sharon said that only since Israel gained jurisdiction over these areas has there been free access to all holy places. 18. (U) Codel Reid cleared this cable. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** KURTZER
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