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| Identifier: | 05HANOI622 |
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| Wikileaks: | View 05HANOI622 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Hanoi |
| Created: | 2005-03-11 10:21:00 |
| Classification: | UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY |
| Tags: | PREL PHUM PGOV KIRF PINR MARR OVIP ETRD VM ETMIN HUMANR RELFREE WTO BTA |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 04 HANOI 000622 SIPDIS SENSITIVE DEPT FOR EAP/BCLTV; EAP/RSP; DRL; PM STATE PASS TO USTR FOR E. BRYAN E.O. 12958: N/A TAGS: PREL, PHUM, PGOV, KIRF, PINR, MARR, OVIP, ETRD, VM, ETMIN, HUMANR, RELFREE, WTO, BTA SUBJECT: The Ambassador's March 10 Meeting with Minister of the Office of the Government Doan Manh Giao Refs: A) Hanoi 314; B) Hanoi 584 1. (SBU) Summary: The Ambassador met March 10 with Minister of the Office of the Government Doan Manh Giao, the equivalent of the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff. The Ambassador described the current state of play of Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom John Hanford's ongoing religious freedom discussions with Ministry of Foreign Affairs officials and underlined that the two sides are very near to closing the gap between them. The Ambassador also stressed the importance of access to the Central Highlands by USG officials, expressed concern about the rumored decision of the GVN to postpone the long-planned March 29-31 U.S. Navy ship visit and urged the GVN to be ready to move forward in next week's bilateral WTO accession talks. The Ambassador also described the need for Vietnam to work harder to improve the investment environment and conditions for U.S. companies. Minister Giao promised to report on the religious freedom talks to Prime Minister Phan Van Khai and Deputy Prime Minister Vu Khoan, said that U.S. officials are welcome to travel to the Central Highlands any time to learn more about the situation there and noted that the PM expressed support for the U.S. ship visit going forward as planned. He also described Vietnam's interest in improving the bilateral environment before the Prime Minister's (proposed) visit to the United States. This includes the GVN's focus on a number of issues of specific interest to the United States and U.S. firms. End Summary. 2. (SBU) The Ambassador met officially for the first time March 10 with Minister of the Office of the Government Doan Manh Giao. Pol/C and MFA Americas Department Deputy Director Pham Van Que also attended. (Note: The Office of the Government is the support organization for the Prime Minister and three Deputy Prime Ministers and plays an inter- agency coordinating role. Minister Giao is akin to the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff. The Ambassador met Minister Giao once before, during the visit of NSC Senior Director for Asia Michael Green (Ref A). End note.) Minister Giao opened by describing his office as "very busy" as it prepares for major bilateral events, such as the tenth anniversary of the normalization of relations, the Prime Minister's upcoming visit to the United States and President Bush's travel to Vietnam on the occasion of APEC 2006. 3. (SBU) Invited by Minister Giao to begin the discussion, the Ambassador raised religious freedom, noting that the GVN's efforts in recent months to focus on this issue have been impressive. The Prime Minister's Instruction on Protestantism and the Ordinance on Religion's Implementation Decree, if carried out as planned, could create a clear path to removing religious freedom as a matter of concern between our two governments. Ambassador at Large for International Religious Freedom John Hanford has been in Hanoi for nearly a week to have detailed discussions with the GVN on creating a framework to avoid taking negative Country of Particular Concern-related actions at this time. Ambassador Hanford's discussions, particularly at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, have been very good. His goal is to work towards a simple agreement between the USG and GVN to allow us to take a non-sanction action against Vietnam next week. We are very close, but it appears that a simple agreement is not something Vietnam is willing to conclude. Ambassador Hanford may thus have to return to Washington empty handed, the Ambassador observed. 4. (SBU) We still hope that there is room to reach an agreement, the Ambassador continued. If not, we remain committed to working with the GVN on this issue. The United States recognizes that, as important as the issue of religious freedom is, it is only one aspect of the overall bilateral relationship, which is more important than any of its parts. However, to achieve the kind of success we both want, the United States and Vietnam have to find a way forward on this matter, the Ambassador said. 5. (SBU) Describing his recent trip to the Central Highlands, the Ambassador said he was very impressed by the attitudes of local officials in Dak Lak and Lam Dong Provinces. Although these provinces are not as economically advanced as Ho Chi Minh City or Hanoi, they have policies in place that could bring benefits to both ethnic Kinh Vietnamese and members of ethnic minority groups in the region. Local officials' level of understanding of the importance of religious freedom and the Government's new policies is also impressive. We look forward to having our staff in both the Consulate General in Ho Chi Minh City and the Embassy return regularly to the Central Highlands to assess the situation on the ground. Access to the region will also be important as the Tripartite Memorandum of Understanding among Vietnam, Cambodia and the UNHCR comes into full effect with the return to Vietnam of those Montagnards who crossed into Cambodia. The USG hopes that the GVN will encourage local authorities to allow visitors to have access to the Central Highlands to give Washington the complete picture of what is going on in the region, the Ambassador said. 6. (SBU) A significant bilateral event on the horizon is the upcoming visit to Ho Chi Minh City by a U.S. warship, the Ambassador continued. The ship is scheduled to arrive in Vung Tau on March 29 and then proceed to the Port of Saigon. We have been looking forward to this event, but there are indications that some in the Office of the Government want to delay the visit until June. We are willing to work with the GVN to accommodate its needs, but a postponement offers no assurance that the visit could take place in June, the Ambassador stressed. 7. (SBU) On the issue of religious freedom, Minister Giao said that the Prime Minister's Instruction and the Implementation Decree represent the "real policies" of the GVN. However, implementation at the local level cannot always be as "complete as expected." Giao offered his assurance that the GVN will take "strict control" of local implementation, especially at the village and commune levels, to ensure that this and other Government policies are implemented properly. Vietnam understands U.S. concerns about this issue but also urges the United States to recognize that U.S. and Vietnamese concepts about this issue are different. The GVN has worked a long time on this matter, and its efforts can be seen in recent policies and improvements, Giao observed. 8. (SBU) Minister Giao reported that he has been following Ambassador Hanford's discussions and noted that it seems that, although differences remain, the two sides have reached a "certain understanding." The GVN is aware of the "special interest" the United States attaches to religious issues and also understands the importance of events we are preparing for, such as the Prime Minister's visit and the tenth anniversary commemoration. Minister Giao himself attaches importance to these issues. The GVN will consider in an "objective manner" the comments made by the U.S. side, and Minister Giao pledged to report this matter to the Prime Minister and discuss it the next morning with Deputy Prime Minister Vu Khoan, with whom he would meet to discuss the Prime Minister's visit to the United States. 9. (SBU) On the Central Highlands, the GVN has no reason not to welcome visits to the region by the Ambassador or other Embassy or Consulate General officials if the goal is to understand the situation there or increase understanding regarding religion, ethnic minority groups or the local authorities' implementation of policy, Minister Giao said. There have been reports from local officials that, since the release of the Prime Minister's Instruction and the Implementation Decree, the situation for religious groups in the Central Highlands has improved. The GVN's goal is to differentiate between real religious followers and those who "abuse religious activities for their own purposes," Minister Giao said. 10. (SBU) On the U.S. Navy ship visit, the Minister said he received a report that a Thai ship (NFI) would be in Vung Tau the same day (March 29) as the American vessel. However, the Prime Minister has told him that the U.S. ship "should get priority." Minister Giao expressed his hope that the Ministry of Defense would reconsider and be in touch with the U.S. side about this matter. 11. (SBU) Returning to Ambassador Hanford's visit and its ultimate goal, the Ambassador noted that it is unusual for someone of Ambassador Hanford' stature to spend so much time in one country. (Note: Ambassador Hanford arrived March 3 and was still in Hanoi on March 10. End note.) This reflects Ambassador Hanford's belief that Vietnam has put in place the right policies related to religious freedom. Under U.S. law, the President must take action this month on all countries designated as Countries of Particular Concern. There is a range of possible actions and most involve economic sanctions. That said, the USG believes that this is not the right action to take for Vietnam. The law has a provision for the option of an agreement between the United States and Vietnam, and that is what we are working on, the language of which echoes efforts that Vietnam is already undertaking. We are not asking Vietnam to take any new action. With the right instructions, Vice Foreign Minister Le Van Bang (Note: The most senior of Ambassador Hanford's interlocutors. End note.) can work with the United States in one more day of hard negotiations to find a solution, the Ambassador stressed. 12. (SBU) On WTO, the Ambassador noted that there will be another round of bilateral negotiations next week. As the Ambassador told Vice Minister of Trade Tu the day before (Ref B), the United States is prepared to try to move forward, but Vietnam must also be ready to move. We cannot stay in our current positions. The U.S. side has recently handed over seven pages of steps Vietnam can take in the services sector to move us closer to a bilateral agreement. This is an example of the kind of actions Vietnam needs to be prepared to discuss and eventually take. Reaching a bilateral WTO agreement before the Prime Minister's proposed visit is possible, but it is increasingly difficult because the clock is ticking. The United States remains supportive of Vietnam's WTO bid, as seen in our statements and actions in the multilateral forum in Geneva, but we need accelerated action from Vietnam. This includes Vietnam's providing the United States and others with draft laws to allow us to see if they are up to WTO standards, the Ambassador said. 13. (SBU) Continuing, the Ambassador said that Vietnam must also work to create an environment in which the USG can support and Congress can pass this year Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) legislation. American businesses remain concerned about Bilateral Trade Agreement (BTA) compliance and the overall environment for doing business in Vietnam. We know that a number of major GVN procurement projects are in the offing and believe that U.S. firms are well positioned to win contracts, such as for aircraft (Boeing), the Ministry of Finance's TABMIS project (multiple U.S. bidders) and Vinasat (Lockheed-Martin). We are confident that U.S. firms' technological superiority and price competitiveness make them strong contenders, but the sooner these deals are concluded, the better for the PNTR vote, the Ambassador noted. 14. (SBU) Minister Giao reported that he recently attended a GVN meeting at which a large number of draft WTO-related legal documents were approved for eventual National Assembly and National Assembly Standing Committee approval and adoption. The GVN would soon be ready to send its revised laws to WTO members for their review. The revision of more than 20 major legal documents is "heavy" and "complicated" work, and any delay will be because of technical difficulties, not a "lack of good faith" on the part of the GVN, Giao emphasized. 15. (SBU) Minister Giao said he fully shares the Ambassador's opinion about the need for an improved investment climate in Vietnam. In the context of bilateral relations in the run-up to the Prime Minister's visit, the PM requested relevant ministries and agencies to consider "specific issues related to U.S. companies" and "come up with solutions." Some of the specific issues include Boeing aircraft, the auto tax, insurance license applications and business consulting in Vietnam. In short, Vietnam will try to create the "most favorable" atmosphere and to have "concrete improvements" in bilateral relations, Minister Giao said. 16. (SBU) Vietnam plans to conclude "seven or eight" agreements before the Prime Minister's visit, and Minister Giao asked that the USG do what is necessary to wrap up these agreements and conclude a "joint communique" that will have seven major points. Minister Giao also noted that, during his meeting with Senior Director Green, the two had discussed "cooperative relations" between the Office of the Government and the "Office of the President." Giao requested that the Ambassador assist with establishing contact. An OOG staffer will travel to Washington at the end of March as a part of VFM Le Van Bang's delegation and hopes to have meetings at the "Office of the President" to learn more about how it functions, Giao said. The Ambassador suggested, and Giao agreed, that this staffer meet beforehand with someone from the Embassy to assess what is needed. 17. (SBU) Comment: As during his meeting with the NSC's Dr. Green, Minister Giao was on top of his brief and spoke directly to the point. As the Prime Minister's "Chief of Staff," he seems genuinely interested in ensuring that bilateral relations remain stable and progress smoothly in the run-up to the PM's visit. We will follow up with the Office of the Government on Giao's request to faciliate greater contact between the Office and the USG. End Comment. 18. (SBU) Bio note: Giao was born in Hue 1944. He graduated from Vietnam Military Academy as an engineer and went on to teach there. Giao did further studies in China and speaks Chinese. In 1983 he started work at the Office of the Government as a China expert. From 1992 - 2001, he was Vice Chairman of the Government Office and was promoted to Minister and Chairman in 2001. He appears to understand English but does not use it in official meetings. MARINE
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