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| Identifier: | 05PARIS1039 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05PARIS1039 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Paris |
| Created: | 2005-02-17 18:14:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL KJUS KAWC SU FR |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 PARIS 001039 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/17/2015 TAGS: PREL, KJUS, KAWC, SU, FR SUBJECT: DARFUR ACCOUNTABILITY: AMB. PROSPER'S DISCUSSION WITH FRENCH MFA Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Josiah Rosenblatt for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d). 1. (C) SUMMARY: France remains committed to referring those responsible for violations of international humanitarian and human rights law in Darfur to the International Criminal Court (ICC). The USG proposal for a hybrid UN/AU tribunal raises French concerns over universal standards of justice, cost and feasibility. END SUMMARY. 2. (C) S/WCI Ambassador Pierre-Richard Prosper met for 90 minutes February 17 with MFA IO Deputy Director Pascal Texeira da Silva (IO Director Ripert was in Washington). Expressing concern that the USG and supporters of the ICC were heading for a train wreck, Prosper stressed that the USG wanted to see accountability for crimes committed in Darfur but, as a matter of policy and by law, was unable to provide funding or evidence to the ICC. Prosper laid out the USG proposal for a hybrid UN/AU tribunal which would have the advantage of the strength of the UN and the involvement of Africa in the tribunal's administration, prosecution, and policy oversight. Building on the facilities in place in Arusha for the ICTR, the tribunal he said, could evolve into a permanent AU tribunal. The USG proposal, he said, would build the capacity of the AU to address crimes in Sudan and elsewhere. In addition, Prosper said, there was a need for a regional tribunal as the ICC would be overburdened by adding Darfur to the investigations currently begun regarding DRC and Uganda, and contemplated for CAR. Ambassador Prosper noted that all the ICC's work was currently focused on Africa, sending a message to Africa that the continent was unable to manage its problems and that justice had to be exported to Europe. Prosper expressed concern that the GoS would seize on divisions over the ICC as an opportunity to avoid accountability. The USG proposal, he said, supported the rule of law in Africa. Ambassador Prosper requested that the GoF consider our idea, by recognizing its merits, and asked whether there was any flexibility in the GoF position. 3. (C) Texeira said that France, as a matter of principle, placed importance on addressing issues of impunity and post-conflict justice. In the case of Darfur, he continued, the appalling crimes committed were well-documented. Following the signing of the comprehensive peace agreement between the GoS and the SPLA, it was important not to send the wrong signal that the west viewed the issue of impunity as unimportant. Texeira noted that the USG's draft UNSC resolution contained many references to north/south issues and to Darfur, but only one paragraph on impunity, something which was not commensurate with the challenge. The UNSC, he said, needed to be more proactive as there would be no peace without justice. 4. (C) Texeira said that the GoS was opposed to any intervention by the international community, claiming that they could provide justice themselves. This, he said, was unacceptable as it was clear that Khartoum was not able and not willing to try criminals. Sudan, he noted, was using allies in the UNSC (Russia and China) to support their position, but if the UNSC could reach consensus, Sudan would have to comply. 5. (C) Texeira said that the case for referral to the ICC was firmly based on the recommendation of the international commission of inquiry and had the support of the UNSYG and High Commissioner for Human Rights Arbour, as well as the majority of Council members. 6. (C) Responding on the issue of African involvement, Texeira said that France was also interested in gauging the Africans on the fight against impunity. He described the concept of regionalization as worrying, saying that war crimes and genocide should be judged according to international norms. He said that the DRC and Uganda cases currently under consideration by the ICC had been referred at the request of Africans. Twenty-six African countries, he noted were ICC signatories and there were African judges and an African deputy prosecutor. Accordingly, he said, he did not accept that Africans regarded the ICC as something alien or imposed by the north. 7. (C) Texeira questioned the feasibility of the USG proposal, claiming that the ICC had the advantage of being ready to work. Its current caseload, he said, had not overburdened it and a third investigation could be conducted within the existing budget. Noting that the issue of ad litem judges for the ICTY and ICTR had been problematic, Texeira wondered where the funding and resources for the USG proposal would come from, and how long it would take to set up. 8. (C) Texeira asked whether there was any flexibility in the USG position which would enable Darfur crimes to be referred to the ICC if protections designed to ensure that U.S. citizens were not subject to the court's jurisdiction were established. 9. (C) Ambassador Prosper replied that legitimation of the court was impossible for the U.S. as long as our fundamental concerns remained unaddressed. At the suggestion of UNSC members, we had sought to obtain Article 98 agreements, but had encountered difficulty with European supporters of the ICC whose political desire not to conclude such agreements was a problem for us. Prosper said that it would be helpful to have creative discussions on how to resolve the ICC issue. He noted that some were using the Darfur issue as a means to legitimize the court rather than to address the issue of crimes committed. Prosper noted that the ICC had failed to follow its own complementarity principles on the Uganda case as there had been no showing that Uganda was not willing to undertake prosecutions. He reminded Texeira that the ICC's own budget committee had expressed concern about the under-representation of Africans on the court. He disagreed that the ICC was ready to deal with Darfur, noting that the ICTY and ICTR had both averaged a hundred investigations relating to one conflict, whereas the ICC had 54 prosecutors and was looking at four conflicts (DRC, Uganda, CAR, and, possibly, Sudan). Prosper pressed Texeira to state whether France would support the USG proposal if it was seen as feasible and what the French position would be if the AU expressed support for a hybrid court. 10. (C) After again insisting that the ICC could handle referral of Darfur within existing resources, Texeira said the details of the USG proposal were unclear on who would create it, what its statute would be, how it would be funded and for how long it would operate. He said that using the Arusha facilities would complicate the ICTR's completion strategy. On funding, he said that voluntary contributions raised problems of stability and predictability and the political agendas of the funding countries. Assessed contributions, he said, meant that ICC signatory countries would be paying twice, once for the ICC and once for the new court. With France now having to justify the efficiency of its expenditures on international organizations to parliament, he said that this double payment would be difficult to explain. 11. (C) Ambassador Prosper suggested that whatever the details of the hybrid court, it was ultimately a policy question for the GoF as to whether it would support it, particularly if the Africans wanted it. Texeira replied that the USG proposal would be a dead end for the ICC. Again referring to a need to address the larger issue of the ICC separately, Prosper suggested that the USG proposal was a way to address the immediate issue of Darfur while a global solution to the ICC issue was sought. He noted that the Rome treaty would be reopened at the seven-year mark and that France had had sufficient concerns about the ICC to be the only country to take advantage of the exemption under Article 124. 12. (C) Referring to majority support in the UNSC for referring Darfur to the ICC, Texeira noted that the USG was the only member opposing referral. He asked why, if USG concerns could be addressed to ensure that there was no possibility of investigation or prosecution of a U.S. citizen, it was so difficult to accede to the majority of 12 UNSC members and abstain on the issue of referral. 13. (C) Ambassador Prosper said that USG concerns over the ICC had been ignored by ICC supporters. We had wanted a loaf, and were being offered crumbs. The USG proposal on Darfur, he suggested, was a means to bypass the larger problem for now to allow time to work on finding a permanent solution in order to avoid this dispute in future. In closing, Ambassador Prosper noted that a U.S. veto on Darfur referral would not only affect the issue of justice in Sudan, but would also have serious consequences for the ICC. 14. (U) KHARTOUM MINIMIZE CONSIDERED Leach
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