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| Identifier: | 05HELSINKI160 |
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| Wikileaks: | View 05HELSINKI160 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Helsinki |
| Created: | 2005-02-04 15:59:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL XF AF ID CH MARR CASC KIPR FI EUN Government Leaders |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 HELSINKI 000160 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/03/2015 TAGS: PREL, XF, AF, ID, CH, MARR, CASC, KIPR, FI, EUN, Government Leaders SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR'S LUNCH WITH FM: MIDDLE EAST IS "NUMBER ONE ITEM" FOR PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION REF: HELSINKI 137 Classified By: Ambassador Earle I. Mack for reasons 1.4(B) and (D) Summary ------- 1. (C) Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja invited the Ambassador to a working lunch February 2. Tuomioja was more relaxed and upbeat than we have seen for some time; the Ambassador was received unusually warmly and a cordial atmosphere existed throughout. The FM welcomed the President's February 22 visit to Brussels, and said he thought the first priority on the agenda should be the Middle East. The U.S. and EU should not allow the momentum generated by the Palestinian election and the Gaza withdrawal plan to dissipate, he said. He argued that Abbas has done "all the right things" and needs to see Israeli reciprocity, and said a good reciprocal gesture would be the elimination of the settlers' outposts in the West Bank. Tuomioja will visit the region in April (clearly with Finland's 2006 EU presidency in mind). 2. (C) Tuomioja said he hopes to pay an introductory call on the Secretary during a visit to the United States in April, and he invited the Secretary to visit Finland, suggesting that cooperation within the Partnership for Peace could be a theme for such a visit. The Ambassador raised the question of the EU's China arms embargo, stressing the U.S. belief that lifting it would send the wrong signal at the wrong time. Tuomioja asserted that the Code of Conduct would be a more effective instrument than the embargo if it is strengthened and made legally binding, and the GoF sees this as an opportune moment to win EU agreement to such changes. The Ambassador thanked Finland for its contributions to reconstruction in Afghanistan; Tuomioja said the GoF recognizes that its commitment there -- as in Kosovo -- is long-term, with no pre-set timetable. On the Aceh talks mediated by former President Ahtisaari, Tuomioja opined that at the first meeting there were more problems on the Indonesian government side than with the GAM; at any rate, it is a positive sign that the talks are continuing. Tuomioja seemed comfortable with the proposed expansion of Finland's peacekeeping law to allow troops to be deployed based on an EU mandate -- an expansion that President Halonen has questioned. The Ambassador said the issue of protecting the intellectual property rights of pharmaceutical companies seems to be headed in the right direction; Tuomioja acknowledged its importance, remarking that the GoF invests public money in R&D funding. The FM said that with the Rogers child custody case having reverted to U.S. courts, he hopes the children's mother will be allowed a fair hearing. (Note: The Iraq portion of the conversation was reported reftel.) End Summary. The President's Brussels Visit, and Meetings -------------------------------------------- with the Secretary ------------------ 3. (C) FM Tuomioja invited the Ambassador to a working lunch at the MFA on February 2. The FM was joined by Markus Lyra, Under Secretary for Political Affairs, Marianne Huusko-Lamponen, advisor to the Minister, and Leena Liukkonen of the USA desk. The Ambassador was accompanied by the DCM and POL chief. The Minister began the conversation by expressing his pleasure that the President is coming to Brussels February 22. This will be a "symbolic event," he commented, in that the President is meeting with the European Commission -- a recognition of the EU's involvement in many items of immediate trans-Atlantic interest, especially trade. Tuomioja said it was his understanding that the Secretary might have a separate meeting with the assembled heads of government while the President is meeting with the Commission; the FM supported this approach as being the most productive use of time. 4. (C) The Minister reported that he will be in New York at the end of April for the "final meeting" of the Helsinki Group on globalization, which he co-chairs with the Tanzanian FM. While in the U.S., Tuomioja would like to pay an introductory bilateral call on the Secretary, and he hopes a date can be found in her busy schedule for such a meeting. In addition, he said, "We would very much welcome a visit by the Secretary to Finland." He suggested that she might want to consider including Helsinki in a future European visit, or might want to visit the European members of the Partnership for Peace. Tuomioja commented ruefully that visits to Finland by U.S. Secretaries of State have become fewer in recent years: "The world doesn't need neutral meeting places so much any more. It's a gain for the world, but a loss for us." The Middle East --------------- 5. (C) The Ambassador asked what Tuomioja thought should be the focus for the President's visit to Brussels. The FM said "the number one item" for the U.S. and the EU now is the Middle East. "We have a real opportunity for the first time to move forward, and everyone needs to be on board." Tuomioja said that so far Mahmoud Abbas has done all the right things. There is much still to be done, but the FM argued that Abbas has tackled some of the most difficult issues already, and Israeli reciprocity is needed. The Middle East is a minefield -- one misstep, and hard-won progress can disappear. But still, he said, the GoF is very hopeful, and he stressed the importance of the U.S. and EU working together to keep things moving in the right direction. "All of us have to be involved on the ground" to keep up the momentum generated by the Palestinian election and the Gaza withdrawal plan. 6. (C) The Ambassador asked what the Minister thought the next steps should be. Tuomioja said he feared that "some in the GoI feel it should be Gaza first and last." The Israelis could make a start in the West Bank by removing the outposts, which the international community agrees are not legal. Doing so is one of the steps in the Road Map. The Road Map may be imperfect, he added, but it's the only game in town, and Finland supports it. The Ambassador thanked Tuomioja for that support. The FM urged the U.S. to make the maximum use of its influence with Israel; "We have slightly more influence with the Palestinians, which we are using to the full," he said. 7. (C) The Ambassador noted that the FM will be going to the region in April, visiting both Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Tuomioja acknowledged that this will be his first visit to Israel since he became Foreign Minister in 2000, although he had been there in earlier years. The DCM, referring to Finland's upcoming EU presidency (July-December 2006), asked if Tuomioja is going in his national capacity, or as an EU representative. Tuomioja essentially answered, both. The EU "has a coordination process that works very well. I will check in with Solana before I go, and report back afterwards." He added that some in the EU question whether the European Union truly has a Common Foreign and Security Policy. On the Middle East, the answer is yes. No matter what differences exist within the EU on this question -- and there are some -- all member countries understand that if they are to have any influence on the Middle East they must work together. 8. (SBU) Under Secretary Lyra called our attention to the fact that Finland will host a February 7-9 seminar on hazardous waste disposal in the Middle East, which will be attended by representatives of the Israeli Government and the Palestinian Authority, as well as Egypt and Jordan. He said that former Finnish Environment Minister Pekka Haavisto, working on behalf of UNEP, which will co-chair, "has been very helpful in moving this forward through thick and thin." 9. (C) The Ambassador and DCM asked the Minister for his concept of the future architecture of the Middle East: what should it include? Tuomioja said the reality is that we cannot hope for an ideal solution, but it would have to include Israel and an independent Palestinian state, both as viable nations, with more or less normal relations with each other, and some form of international guarantees. The Minister noted that final status issues have not yet begun to be addressed, but the Geneva Accord provides some interesting proposals and shows that no issue is intractable if the parties have the will to resolve it. The Ambassador stressed that whatever we might hope for in a final agreement, the Palestinians must assume their share of responsibility for security -- the bloodshed must stop. The international community should help them accomplish that. 10. (C) Tuomioja commented that the Palestinians are the number one candidate for a real model of a functioning Arab democracy. The DCM mentioned the Embassy's outreach to Finland's Muslim population; at one reception an Iraqi immigrant had pointed out to his fellow Muslims that Yassir Arafat was the only democratically-elected Arab president. Aceh ---- 11. (C) The Ambassador expressed our sympathies to the nation of Finland and to the bereaved families over the deaths of Finnish citizens in the tsunami disaster. The DCM added that Embassy Helsinki will continue to support in any way we can former President Ahtisaari's efforts to bring together the Indonesian government and GAM rebels. Tuomioja thanked us for U.S. condolences and disaster assistance on the ground. As far as the first round of GoI/GAM talks, his sense was that "there were more problems on the Indonesian government side" than with the GAM, but at any rate it is a good sign that the talks will continue. EU China Arms Embargo --------------------- 12. (C) The Ambassador referred to the Administration's strong views about the prospect that the EU will lift the China arms embargo. Tuomioja said Finland supports lifting the embargo because "conditions have changed." For Finland the key point is that this is a chance to strengthen the Code of Conduct and make it legally binding: "We see (the current discussion within the Union) as an opportunity to get EU decisions that would otherwise take a long time." The embargo, Tuomioja said, "is either on or off. And when it's on, we have no leverage." He maintained that the Code of Conduct would provide leverage with the Chinese on each individual item. Under Secretary Lyra asserted that the Finns see the Code of Conduct as more effective in controlling the kinds of non-weapon, dual-use technology the Chinese are most apt to want. 13. (C) The DCM asked whether there is EU unanimity to lift the embargo. Tuomioja said yes, in principle, but the outstanding issues are the timetable, revising the Code of Conduct, and consulting with the United States, "because we don't want any misunderstanding." 14. (C) The Ambassador said the EU should make no mistake: the United States opposes lifting the embargo. It would send the wrong signal at the wrong time as regards China's human rights record. The DCM asked what Finland is hearing from Chinese dissidents about the embargo. The FM answered obliquely, saying that the Chinese would never accept explicit linkage between lifting the embargo and improvement in human rights, but understand that the linkage is there. He added that in his own most recent visit to Beijing, he had pressed the question of human rights with (then Vice FM) Li Zhaoxing. The latter launched into a tirade against human rights NGOs, charging that they wished to undermine the Chinese government. Tuomioja said he had replied that Li misread the NGOs' position -- to which Tuomioja could attest first-hand, since he is a member of Amnesty International. This reply, he said, seemed to leave the minister nonplussed. Afghanistan ----------- 15. (C) The Ambassador thanked Finland for its ongoing contributions to rebuilding civil society in Afghanistan, and to peacekeeping in Kosovo. Tuomioja replied that the Finns recognize Afghanistan -- like Kosovo -- is a long-term commitment, without a pre-set timetable. Things do seem to be getting better, he said: conditions in Afghanistan, including the drug situation, have improved even in comparison with six months ago. 16. (C) Tuomioja told us that he will be traveling to Afghanistan himself soon, a trip that has been scheduled and postponed several times in the past. The Ambassador said he hoped the FM would be able to meet with Ambassador Khalilzad while in Kabul. Under Secretary Lyra said that unfortunately Ambassador Khalilzad had been away from the city during Lyra's own visit to Kabul last May. Lyra said he had heard a lot about the Ambassador: "He is an impressive figure, and has a specific background ideal for his position." EU Defense Cooperation ---------------------- 17. (C) The Ambassador referred to domestic debate over whether Finland should expand its peacekeeping legislation -- which currently allows the GoF to contribute only to forces with a UN or OSCE mandate -- to include missions with an EU mandate. (Note: President Halonen, who, like Tuomioja, comes from the left wing of the SDP, has expressed reservations about such an expansion, one of the few instances in which she has parted company with the Center/SDP governing coalition.) Tuomioja said that Finland plans to contribute to two battle groups, and is looking at several possible changes to the legislation, which may be renamed the "crisis management" law. For one thing, the Finnish decision-making process must be streamlined, since it involves the President, the GoF, and Parliament, and occasions may arise when decisions have to be taken swiftly. The GoF does favor allowing for an EU mandate, he said: as a general rule, the battle groups should be deployed on a UN mandate, but there may be occasions when that is not possible yet action is called for. Tuomioja maintained, however, that this question of an EU mandate is not a major issue, since no EU operation would be undertaken without consensus within the Union. Rogers Child Custody Case ------------------------- 18. (SBU) The Ambassador thanked the Minister for the MFA's assistance in resolving the child custody case of the dual-national Rogers children, who are now back in the United States with their father, in accordance with the terms of the Hague Convention. Tuomioja, in a reference to the domestic controversy over the case within Finland, said, "It wasn't an easy thing." Finland has an independent judiciary, he said, but that judiciary obeys international law. The FM did note that the Rogers case has reverted to a U.S. court, and said he hoped the children's Finnish mother would have a chance to put her case before that court. Intellectual Property Rights ---------------------------- 19. (SBU) The Ambassador said he had had a useful conversation with Minister of Social Affairs and Health Sinikka Monkare on the question of pharmaceutical patent protection. Events seem to be moving in the right direction. The chairmen of both Merck and Pfizer have told the Ambassador that they respect Finnish brainpower, and would like to invest more in R&D in Finland, were there adequate patent protection. It would help Finland, he added, to be seen as a leader in the biotechnology industry. The DCM noted that only three EU members -- Portugal, Austria, and Finland -- are not in line with EU standards on length of patent protection. The FM replied that he was happy this matter hasn't landed on his desk, but he recognized its importance -- "We've invested a lot of public money in R&D financing." The Environment --------------- 20. (U) The Ambassador thanked the FM for Finland's vote to extend the methyl bromide convention. The U.S., said the Ambassador, is an environmentally conscious nation, and even if it is not possible for the U.S. to sign the Kyoto Protocol, he hoped some future agreement can be crafted that is acceptable to all sides. The Minister (who had said much the same thing to Under Secretary Dobriansky during her October, 2002 visit to Helsinki) acknowledged this without comment. MACK
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