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| Identifier: | 05PARIS488 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05PARIS488 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Paris |
| Created: | 2005-01-27 10:14:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PGOV PREL SNAR EAID AF FR NATO |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 PARIS 000488 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/24/2015 TAGS: PGOV, PREL, SNAR, EAID, AF, FR, NATO SUBJECT: THE FRENCH ON AFGHANISTAN: SYNERGY NOT INTEGRATION FOR ISAF/OEF; NO NEW FORCE CONTRIBUTION FOR NOW; IDEAS ON COUNTERNARCOTICS REF: SECSTATE 02743 Classified By: political minister counselor Josiah Rosenblatt for reaso ns 1.4 (b) and (d). 1. (C) SUMMARY. In a series of meetings on January 21 and 22, Coordinator for Afghanistan Ambassador Maureen Quinn and a State, Department of Defense/OSD and JCS team met with several representatives from the French MFA, MOD and Elysee (President's office) to discuss the French outlook and commitment in Afghanistan. On the whole, officials expressed optimism in the wake of what they deemed a successful presidential election. The officials expressed concerns over ISAF expansion, the proposed ISAF/OEF "merger", and a narcotics problem that all agreed is Afghanistan's biggest challenge in the year ahead. The French offered their views on Phase II commitments (they are looking into what they can give and will push their European partners to do the same). Bertrand Besancenot, the MOD Diplomatic Adviser who had just returned from Russia, suggested allowing the Russians to engage more in Afghanistan though he recognized that the coalition must be careful in how and to what extent Russia should play a role and said Alliot-Marie would soon offer ideas on counternarcotics (para. 8). End Summary. -------------------------------------- Political Atmosphere: French Positive on Upcoming Parliamentary Election -------------------------------------- 2. (U) French officials were optimistic on Afghanistan's future, which Camille Grand, Deputy Diplomatic Adviser to the Minister of Defense, characterized as "a success story" and Presidency Advisor for Strategic Affairs, Laurent Bili, said was "a bigger success than France had expected." Anne Grillo-Nebout, the head of the MFA South Asian Affairs Department, said that the French were pleased with how President Karzai established his cabinet, characterizing it as "well-balanced" and noting that it integrates the Pashtuns, which, she said, the French believe is integral to stability. Bertrand Besancenot, Diplomatic Adviser to the Minister of Defense, said that Karzai seemed much more confident and comfortable at a recent meeting. The next political challenge, Grillo-Nebout said, will be setting up the upcoming parliamentary elections that are tentatively scheduled for spring. She explained that the French believe the sooner these elections occur the better as the momentum of the successful presidential election should give force to the parliamentary elections which will be more complicated. Grillo-Nebout predicted that the population would participate in the elections and that if there were challenges they would probably occur just after the vote. ------------------------------------ Funding for Parliamentary Elections and Training Parliamentarians ------------------------------------ 3. (C) Grillo-Nebout explained that the French are now in the process of examining funding issues for Afghanistan's future Parliament. She said that the French would push the European Commission to contribute to the parliamentary elections, just as they pushed them to contribute to the presidential elections. She and Laurent Bili spoke of plans for a conference that Grillo-Nebout said France would host in the second week of March (exact date undetermined) on assistance to the Parliament. The participants will include G7 countries, UNAMA, UNDP, and others who hold a stake in funding development of the Parliament. Participants will present and discuss building an effective framework to deliver aid to the new Parliament. ---- NATO ---- 4. (C) Force Generation - Xavier Chatel, the MFA NATO Desk Officer, said that force generation is the real issue at the core of expanding the ISAF mandate. Both Camille Grand and Bertrand Besancenot said that the French Minister of Defense, Michele Alliot-Marie, consistently asserts that nations must be realistic about their force generation commitments; the aim, they said, is to ensure that member countries do not make promises that they cannot keep. Given that realistic approach, Grand and Besancenot admitted, it can sometimes appear that the French are less encouraging than they should be. Nevertheless, both MOD officials assured that the French are committed to OEF and ISAF and will continue to be committed even after EUROCORPS hands over command in February (Grand pointed out that France will give six fighter planes and crew to ISAF when their command and control elements leave the mission). 5. (C) Chatel asked for clarification on the proposed U.S. transfers of two PRTs (Farah and Herat, reftel). He asked what a handover to ISAF would entail, how it would be done, if it would mean a diminished U.S. force presence in these two posts, and what the U.S. sees as the end-state in western expansion. Ambassador Quinn, OSD and JSC representatives underscored that the purpose of a possible integration of ISAF and OEF was not to diminish the US presence or commitment in Afghanistan. Laurent Bili said the President's office is in the process of asking the MOD if they have a "margin of flexibility" that would allow for more troops to go to the region. He said that France does not like the idea of using the NATO Response Force (NRF) to fill the vacuum left when there are not adequate forces but he noted that the NRF must be available to NATO. He said that the GOF believes that it is not a good idea to have too many troops on the ground in Afghanistan; one of the reasons there has not been high resistance to NATO's presence, he said, is precisely because the force numbers are low. 6. (C) NATO: ISAF/OEF Integration - Mostly a German Concern. Bili said the Presidency's concern over proposed ISAF/OEF integration centered on the fact that the Germans are unable to support it. Besancenot echoed this saying that the Germans have a "constitutional problem" with integration and that Francez special relationship with Germany demands French support. Grand said that there is some concern at the MOD over ISAF/OEF integration in that the MOD believes that the Afghans, who see ISAF forces as purely humanitarian and OEF forces as having "more teeth," might adopt a more negative attitude if the two were to merge. Quinn countered that the reputation of OEF troops among the Afghans is as high as that of ISAF troops. Another concern, Grand said, is that the U.S. would decrease its presence in Afghanistan with the "merger." While he said he was convinced that the U.S. has "no secret plan to hand Afghanistan over to the EU,"issues over "post-fusion" troop strength and command structure linger. Besancenot said that an ISAF/OEF "merger" amounts to an extension of the ISAF mandate, and would necessitate a discussion with the U.S. over what the U.S. contribution to new ISAF capabilities will be. Grand suggested that the best way to go about a "merger" would be to do it incrementally rather than making it a political event. "But in the back of our minds," he admitted, "We don't want to lose the Germans on this." 7. (C) NATO: PRTs. On the subject of PRTs Grand explained that in the beginning the MOD was opposed to them; he said that the military was reluctant to "act like an NGO" while NGOs complained that working side by side with the military undermined and endangered them. However, the French sent liaison personnel to work at two PRTs and based on their reports have determined that while PRTs are "vastly different" from one another, "they do work." Subsequent discussions with UNAMA concluded that PRTs are effective in administering humanitarian relief. Both Grand and Besancenot stated that the MOD is not "theologically opposed" to PRTs, they are still studying the situation. ----------------- Counter-Narcotics ----------------- 8. (C) All parties at the MOD, MFA and Elysee agreed that the largest challenge facing Afghanistan this year will be combating the growing drug trade. Bili said that ISAF must be part of the solution to Afghanistan's narco-traffic problem, a sentiment echoed at the MFA and MOD. When Ambassador Quinn suggested to Bili and Besancenot separately that ISAF could provide intelligence and logistic support to Afghanistan's counter-narcotics effort, both agreed and added that special forces could also be used if necessary. Besancenot said that Alliot-Marie would answer Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld's letter regarding combatting the drug trade in Afghanistan in the coming days. He said that she will propose a planning meeting of the U.S., France, Italy, Germany and the UK to come up with a counter-narcotics framework quickly. Besancenot said that this should include proposed military assistance, World Bank contributions and a plan to incorporate bordering countries (he noted that the Russians recently pointed out to him that the Iranians have made a great effort to combat drug traffic in their country and that they should be involved in any regional strategy adopted by the coalition). Grillo-Nebout and Besancenot noted that while the old warlords were content to fight the system, new drug barons will try to co-opt the government - this, they said, is particularly dangerous in light of upcoming parliamentary elections. ------ Russia ------ 9. (C) Besancenot, who returned from an official visit to Russia with Alliot-Marie on January 21, said that authorities in Moscow are "more than a little uncomfortable" with the situation in Afghanistan. Firstly, he said, the Russians are concerned that since Dostum was "put aside" he could "play a nasty role" in the future. Secondly, they said, the liberation of moderate Taliban elements worries the Russians. He added that Moscow is concerned with the drug issue. The Russians' problem, according to Besancenot, stemmed from the fact that they had offered a contribution to NATO efforts in the past and Washington "said no." He suggested that the U.S. think again about trying to involve Russia to some degree in Afghanistan adding that counter-narcotics may be a way of re-engaging them. He said that the French are not naive, that they know "Moscow has their friends" in the country who they would favor, but that the Russians share a common interest and should therefore not be shut out. 10. Ambassador Quinn cleared this cable. Leach
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