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| Identifier: | 05TELAVIV163 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 05TELAVIV163 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Tel Aviv |
| Created: | 2005-01-10 13:41:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL KPAL IS GOI EXTERNAL GAZA DISENGAGEMENT ISRAELI |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 TEL AVIV 000163 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/07/2015 TAGS: PREL, KPAL, IS, GOI EXTERNAL, GAZA DISENGAGEMENT, ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS SUBJECT: IDF CHIEF OF STAFF DISCUSSES PALESTINIAN ELECTIONS, DISENGAGEMENT, IRAN, AND SYRIA WITH CODEL KYL Classified By: Acting DCM Norman H. Olsen; Reasons: 1.4 (B) and (D). 1. (C) SUMMARY: Israeli Defense Force (IDF) Chief of Staff LtG Moshe Ya'alon told CoDel Kyl January 7 that recent events have ushered in "an era of strategic opportunity" in the Middle East. He said that Israel is facilitating Palestinian elections and believes that Abu Mazen is strong enough to control terrorism -- including by Hamas and Islamic Jihad -- if he makes a strategic decision to do so. Ya'alon noted that the IDF is ready to implement disengagement from Gaza in July. He urged international sanctions against Iran to prevent Tehran from acquiring the capability to produce nuclear weapons. He also suggested that USG influence on Egypt could end weapons smuggling through Sinai and that international pressure could help reduce support for terrorism by Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. He ascribed improved security within Israel to the IDF's offensive operations in the Palestinian territories and to the construction of the security barrier. END SUMMARY. 2. (C) CoDel Kyl met with Ya'alon in the Israeli Ministry of Defense on January 7. The Congressional delegation consisted of Senators Jon Kyl, Lisa Murkowski, and Mel Martinez, and Representative Adam Smith, as well as Congressional and military staff. They were joined by Charge d'Affaires Norm Olsen, Defense Attache Colonel Timothy Murphy, and poloff (notetaker). Ya'alon was accompanied by Commander of the IDF Media and Communications Division BG Ruth Yaron, Chairman of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Yuval Steinitz, and staffers from the Knesset, IDF, MOD, and MFA. --------------------------------------------- -- New Opportunities and the Palestinian Elections --------------------------------------------- -- 3. (C) Ya'alon called 2005 "an era of strategic opportunity," brought about by the U.S. presidential election, death of Arafat, approval of PM Sharon's disengagement plan, and upcoming elections in Iraq. He said that Israel is doing its best to facilitate Palestinian elections. The IDF is acting with restraint and avoiding operations in urban areas to the extent possible, despite what he said were 100 terrorist incidents last week. If the terrorist attacks continue after the elections, however, he cautioned that he is "not sure what will happen on Monday or Tuesday." 4. (C) Senator Martinez asked if Abu Mazen will have control of the PA security forces after the election. Ya'alon replied that this appears to be the case, provided the Palestinian leadership implements the proposed security reforms and takes advantage of logistical support offered by Egypt, the EU, and UK. Israel will do its best to let Abu Mazen succeed and will give him "a few weeks" to organize his forces, said Ya'alon. This process must occur in a matter of "days, not years," he cautioned. Ya'alon maintained that it is not a question of capabilities, but of a political decision to stop terror. He said Palestinian security forces were prepared to crack down on terrorists after Arafat's death, but "never received the order." Ya'alon noted that Abu Mazen wants to convince the terrorists to voluntarily refrain from attacks, but "there is no way to convince without a stick." 5. (C) In response to a question by Senator Kyl, Ya'alon replied that PA forces are strong enough to deal with Hamas or Islamic Jihad. Ya'alon stressed that Abu Mazen must act or Hamas will control the Palestinian agenda. He added that the USG and others should focus on Hizballah, whose capabilities are concentrated in areas outside of PA control. -------------------------------------------- IDF Ready to Implement Disengagement in July -------------------------------------------- 6. (C) Ya'alon insisted that the IDF is ready to implement disengagement in July. Israel prefers to coordinate with the Palestinians, he said, but is prepared to act unilaterally if necessary. Ya'alon predicted that extremists will increase their attacks in the summer in an attempt to create the impression of an Israeli retreat. After this period, the PA will see it in their own interest to make disengagement a success and build a case for disengagement from parts of the West Bank. Outside forces such as Iran, Syria, and their client groups will seek to undermine the PA efforts, he said, but Israel will work to counter these threats. 7. (C) Senator Kyl asked how Israel will ensure security in Gaza after disengagement. Ya'alon replied that the IDF will increase its intelligence capabilities and deploy along the border behind the existing security barrier. Ya'alon cautioned that if attacks continue after disengagement, Israel will respond, even if it must redeploy ground forces into Gaza. Ya'alon said that he has recommended that Israeli forces remain in the Philadelphi strip along the border with Egypt until the PA demonstrates "responsible and effective leadership." He added that any redeployment from Philadelphi before that point would be a "disaster" and result in Gaza degenerating into "Hamasstan, Al-Qaedastan, Hizballahstan." -------------------------------------------- Dealing with Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt -------------------------------------------- 8. (C) Steinitz stressed what he said is the important role that the Arab countries play in encouraging Palestinian terrorism. Ya'alon noted that Iran, Syria, Hamas, Hizballah, Islamic Jihad, and others see the adoption of western values in the region as a threat. They decided to increase terrorism in the region "the day Arafat died" in order to prevent Abu Mazen from reaching an agreement with Israel. He claimed that 75 percent of attacks by Palestinian terrorists are financed by Iran, and that the main operational headquarters for terrorism in the Palestinian areas is operated by Hizballah in Beirut. 9. (C) Addressing the topic of weapons smuggling, Ya'alon said all of Israel's borders are quiet except for the one with Egypt. He described the Sinai, however, as a "paradise for smugglers." Steinitz told the CoDel that "Egypt is doing to us what Syria is doing to you in Iraq." Despite what Ya'alon described as a "very good atmosphere" in Egyptian-Israeli relations, Cairo refuses to address the problem. He claimed that the only way to change the Egyptian tolerance of smuggling is for the USG to threaten financial consequences. 10. (C) Ya'alon said that even the Europeans understand that Iran "is determined to acquire military nuclear capabilities." He said there is still a chance to attempt to convince Tehran to give up its military program (primarily the fuel cycle), but described the EU-3 agreement as "not enough." He reiterated Israel's view that the IAEA should report Iran to the UNSC. Representative Smith asked how Iran and Syria should be dealt with and about the possibilities of greater cooperation with Europe. Ya'alon said the best way to deal with external support for terror is through political and economic sanctions. The USG and Israel should work to convince the Europeans to be more aggressive in this regard, he added. 11. (C) Ya'alon said that Israeli intelligence experts had briefed their European counterparts on the Iranian nuclear threat. While there is some cause for optimism, he added, certain "key" political leaders such as German FM Joschka Fischer still need to understand that Iran represents "not just unconventional capabilities, but an unconventional regime," which makes the threat to Europe tangibly different than that posed by Russia during the Cold War. Ya'alon said there is no chance to influence Iranian policy without political and economic sanctions. Such sanctions might also facilitate internal political change in Iran, he added. -------------------------- Israel's Strategic Paradox -------------------------- 12. (C) Ya'alon described what he called Israel's "strategic paradox." Despite its unbroken string of conventional military victories and status as a regional superpower, Israel still faces neighbors who question its "right to exist as a Jewish state." Unable to challenge the IDF, Israel's enemies began a "subconventional war" targeting civilians with terror, primarily mortar, rocket, and suicide bomber attacks. They intend to use both terror and demographics to drive Israelis out. Ya'alon described the Intifada as a political decision by the Palestinian leadership and not a popular uprising. He claimed that Fatah leaders saw the Oslo accords as a "Trojan horse" that allowed them to return to the West Bank and Gaza and commence terror operations. 13. (C) Ya'alon said the IDF faces "new challenges" in dealing with the terrorist infrastructure. One part of this task is to address the educational system, incitement, and ideology supporting terror, he said. Ya'alon expressed full support for the USG's strategy of fostering democracy and education in the region. The other component is eliminating capabilities, where, he added, "the best defense -- even with terrorism -- is offense, no doubt about it." Israel has arrested "thousands" of terrorists and continues to apprehend 15-20 a day. According to Ya'alon, Israel enjoys four important advantages in its war against terror: intelligence dominance, air superiority, precision munitions, and information dominance (i.e., the ability to transmit intelligence to the IDF end-user and systems in real time). In the West Bank, Israeli security forces have freedom of movement and can make arrests with relatively small numbers of troops. In Gaza, however, troops are not based in the cities, necessitating larger deployments for each operation. Ya'alon said that these offensive operations, combined with the construction of the security barrier, are "the main reason we now enjoy a relatively fair security situation" inside Israel. 14. (U) This message was cleared by CoDel Kyl. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** KURTZER
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