US embassy cable - 04HOCHIMINHCITY1482

UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 02 HO CHI MINH CITY 001482 
 
SIPDIS 
 
SENSITIVE 
 
DEPARTMENT FOR EAP/BCLTV, DRL/IRF 
 
E.O. 12958: N/A 
TAGS: PHUM, SOCI, PREL, PGOV, KIRF, VM, HUMANR, RELFREE 
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR VISITS UBCV PATRIARCH THICH HUYEN QUANG 
 
REF: A) HCM 572; B) Hanoi 3187 
 
1. (SBU) Summary: The Ambassador visited the Most Venerable Thich 
Huyen Quang, Patriarch of the banned Unified Buddhist Church of 
Vietnam (UBCV), at Quy Nhon General Hospital November 21.  Thich 
Huyen Quang confirmed that he remains under unofficial pagoda 
arrest, although local officials arranged his hospitalization. 
The 86-year-old monk expressed his gratitude for the ambassador's 
visit and sought USG support for the creation of a religious 
school for its monks.  Unlike UBCV General Secretary Thich Quang 
Do, who sharply attacked the GVN in a November 21 meeting in HCMC 
(septel), the patriarch did not raise broader political issues 
with the Ambassador.  In a separate meeting, Chairman of the Binh 
Dinh Provincial People's Committee told the Ambassador that Thich 
Huyen Quang "may request permission to travel as soon as he is 
healthy" and that he would allow it.  End Summary. 
 
2. (SBU) On November 21, the Ambassador met for 20 minutes with 
UBCV Patriarch Thich Huyen Quang in a VIP room at Quy Nhon General 
Hospital.  The 86-year-old religious leader has been receiving 
treatment for a stomach hemorrhage; local GVN officials arranged 
for his hospitalization on November 18.  Thich Huyen Quang was on 
an IV drip and remained in bed throughout the visit, but his voice 
was strong and he greeted the Ambassador with a firm handshake. 
Thich Huyen Quang stated that his health had improved 
considerably, and he expected to be released the next day.  (Note: 
Currently, he remains in the hospital.)  Although local officials 
accompanied the Ambassador to the hospital, the meeting was 
private except for two doctors and one nurse who remained in the 
room. 
 
3. (SBU) Contradicting information circulating on the internet 
that local officials refused to provide medical treatment to him 
in the past, Thich Huyen Quang stated he had not made any previous 
requests for treatment, although he acknowledged that he had been 
ill for some time.  When asked why he did not receive treatment 
earlier, he simply said he "didn't think of it."  Thich Huyen 
Quang confirmed that prior to his hospitalization, he was not 
allowed to leave his pagoda, remaining under virtual house arrest 
since October 2003 when he was stopped from traveling to Ho Chi 
Minh City with other UBCV monks.  He stated that it was "very 
difficult" for him to communicate with UBCV Deputy Head Thich 
Quang Do in Ho Chi Minh City who is also under unofficial pagoda 
arrest.  He did not directly respond to the Ambassador's offer of 
USG assistance to try to facilitate the visit of his UBCV Deputy. 
On November 22, HCMC and Dong Nai province police forces prevented 
Thich Quang Do from visiting.  (DAS Dugan's November 21 visit with 
UBCV General Secretary Thich Quang Do and Thich Quang Do's failed 
attempt to travel to visit his mentor will be reported septel.) 
 
4. (SBU) In contrast to his statements to Ambassador Burghardt in 
April 2004 (Ref. A), Thich Huyen Quang said he saw "no reason" why 
the outlawed UBCV should merge with the GVN-recognized Vietnam 
Buddhist Sangha (VBS).  When asked what the Ambassador could do 
for him, Thich Huyen Quang emphasized the UBCV's need to establish 
a school to train its next generation of leaders from primary 
school through graduate studies. 
 
Provincial Leadership Takes Conciliatory Tone 
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5. (SBU) In a subsequent meeting, Mr. Vu Hoang Ha, Chairman of the 
Binh Dinh Provincial People's Committee, told the Ambassador that 
Thich Huyen Quang "may request permission to travel as soon as he 
is healthy" and indicated that he would approve the request. 
Chairman Ha expressed his frustration with dealing with the UBCV 
and pointed out that he and other senior provincial officials had 
visited Thich Huyen Quang several times over the past year and had 
promptly transferred the UBCV leader to the hospital in response 
to his request.  Ha noted that two officers of the Ministry of 
Public Security had donated blood when Quang was in need of a 
blood transfusion the previous week.  He also claimed that his 
staff had been arranging for Thich Huyen Quang to travel to Hanoi 
"earlier this month," but those plans had to shelved due to the 
Patriarch's health problems. 
 
6. (SBU) When asked by the Ambassador why an ill 86-year-old man 
was seen as a threat to the GVN, Chairman Ha said that the UBCV 
brought on their current problems with the GVN themselves by 
holding an "illegal Congress" in September 2003 (reftel).  Ha 
stated that the UBCV could only hold such meetings if it was a 
registered religious group.  The Ambassador pointed out the 
difficulty in registering a religious group without first holding 
internal discussions about the issue.  Ha replied that the GVN 
does not wish to be involved in the UBCV's deliberations on 
whether to unify with the VBS or seek to register as a separate 
religious organization, but offered no suggestions as to how its 
leaders could come to such a decision when they are not permitted 
to meet or even speak to each other. 
 
7. (SBU) Comment: While we would like to think otherwise, Chairman 
Ha is not likely to be able to fulfill his promise of more lenient 
treatment for Thich Huyen Quang in the future.  In October 2003, 
Thich Huyen Quang was allowed to leave Binh Dinh Province, only to 
be stopped in Khanh Hoa Province on his way to Ho Chi Minh City. 
Upon his return to Binh Dinh, Quang was placed under unofficial 
pagoda arrest.  The GVN's decision to prevent Thich Quang Do from 
traveling from HCMC to visit his ailing mentor probably is a more 
accurate gauge of GVN attitudes towards the UBCV and reflects its 
intention to keep the UBCV on a very tight leash.   End Comment. 
 
WINNICK