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| Identifier: | 01PARIS11204 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 01PARIS11204 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Paris |
| Created: | 2001-10-16 05:12:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | AF FR PK PREL |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
O 160512Z OCT 01 FM AMEMBASSY PARIS TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9246 INFO ALL EUROPEAN UNION POST COLLECTIVE AMEMBASSY ALMATY AMEMBASSY ANKARA AMEMBASSY ASHGABAT AMEMBASSY BEIJING AMEMBASSY BERLIN AMEMBASSY BISHKEK AMEMBASSY CANBERRA AMEMBASSY DOHA AMEMBASSY DUSHANBE SUSTEL AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD AMEMBASSY LONDON AMEMBASSY MOSCOW AMEMBASSY NEW DELHI AMEMBASSY RIYADH AMEMBASSY ROME AMEMBASSY TASHKENT AMEMBASSY TOKYO USEU BRUSSELS USMISSION USNATO USMISSION USUN NEW YORK
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 PARIS 011204 E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/15/2011 TAGS: AF, FR, PK, PREL SUBJECT: FRENCH VIEWS OF AFGHANISTAN'S POLITICAL FUTURE REF: STATE 176819 CLASSIFIED BY: CLASSIFIED BY POLITICAL MINISTER COUNSELOR SHARON WIENER FOR REASONS 1.5 (B) AND (D). 1. (C) WE DELIVERED REFTEL POINTS TO FOREIGN MINISTER VEDRINE'S OFFICE AND TO MFA AFGHAN DESK OFFICER BRUCE BOURDON ON OCTOBER 11 AND FOLLOWED-UP WITH A MEETING WITH BOURDON ON OCTOBER 12. BOURDON TOLD US THAT THE FRENCH WERE ENGAGED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR EU PARTNERS REGARDING AFGHANISTAN'S POLITICAL FUTURE. HE NOTED THESE DISCUSSIONS HAD BEEN STIMULATED IN PART BY FOREIGN MINISTER HUBERT VEDRINE'S "ACTION PLAN FOR AFGHANISTAN". HOWEVER, HE ADDED THAT THE FRENCH HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS, DOCUMENTS, OR PROPOSALS ABOUT WHERE TO GO NEXT IN AFGHANISTAN FROM THEIR EU PARTNERS. BOURDON SAID THIS LACK OF RESPONSE WAS PROBABLY DUE TO SEVERAL FACTORS: INSUFFICIENT TIME TO RESPOND, UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE DIRECTION THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN WOULD TAKE, AND, THE CURRENT HEAVY TRAVEL SCHEDULE OF SENIOR MFA OFFICIALS. BOURDON NOTED VEDRINE WAS VISITING ROME WHERE HE WILL BE MEETING WITH FORMER KING MOHAMMED ZAHIR SHAH, WHILE THE MFA'S DIRECTOR FOR ASIA, DOMINIQUE GIRARD, IS VISITING WASHINGTON. TONGUE IN CHEEK, BOURDON COMMENTED THAT GIVEN GIRARD'S VISIT TO WASHINGTON, IT WAS LIKELY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT FRANCE'S POSITION ON AFGHANISTAN THAN HE WOULD. BOURDON, HOWEVER, MADE CLEAR THAT IN TRYING TO DEVELOP A POSITION ON AFGHANISTAN'S POLITICAL FUTURE, FRANCE WAS PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE OPINIONS OF THE GERMANS, BRITISH, AND ITALIANS. THE FRENCH WILL LISTEN POLITELY TO OTHER EU MEMBERS, BUT IT IS THOSE THREE COUNTRIES WHO ARE MOST INVOLVED IN THE CRISIS AND CONTRIBUTING THE MOST FINANCIALLY. 2. (C) BOURDON SAID HE DID NOT EXPECT ANYONE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A COHERENT POSITION UNTIL THE COURSE OF THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN BECAME A BIT CLEARER. HE EXPLAINED THAT THE FRENCH WERE WATCHING DEVELOPMENTS CLOSELY TO SEE WHETHER THE TALIBAN COLLAPSED OR IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HANG ON TO POWER FOR SOME TIME. WHILE THE FRENCH HOPE FOR A QUICK COLLAPSE AND A RAPID CESSATION OF HOSTILITIES, THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT IN A WORST CASE, THE CONFLICT COULD DRAG ON THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR AND WELL INTO 2002. BOURDON NOTED THE FRENCH WERE ALSO KEEPING AN EYE ON PAKISTANI BEHAVIOR TOWARDS AFGHANISTAN AND THE TALIBAN. HE EXPLAINED THAT THE FRENCH WERE UNCERTAIN WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN WOULD ALLOW THE TALIBAN TO CRUMBLE, OR WHETHER THE GOP, OR A ROGUE ELEMENT OF THE GOP, WOULD FIND SOME MEANS TO PROVIDE COVERT SUPPORT TO THE TALIBAN. UNSURE ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT, THE FRENCH NEVERTHELESS BELIEVE THE GOP NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN DECISIONS RELATING TO AFGHANISTAN'S FUTURE AND THAT IT IS CRUCIAL TO FIND AFGHAN PASHTUNS WHO CAN PLAY A PROMINENT ROLE. 3. (C) BOURDON SAID THE FRENCH BELIEVED FORMER KING MOHAMMED ZAHIR SHAH WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO PLAY A VERY LIMITED ROLE. HE MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE IMPETUS TO START A DIALOGUE, LOYA JIRGA, BUT HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THINGS HIMSELF. THE FRENCH ALSO BELIEVE WE, WESTERN COUNTRIES, SHOULD BE CAREFUL TO NOT TRY TO IMPOSE ANY DECISIONS FROM THE OUTSIDE. THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL SUPERVISORY ROLE FOR THE UNITED NATIONS, BUT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY EFFORT TO DEPLOY A LARGER-SCALE UN MISSION A LA KOSOVO OR EAST TIMOR. A LARGE UN MISSION SIMPLY WOULD NOT WORK AND IT WOULD QUICKLY BECOME IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVIDE ANY KIND OF SECURITY FOR A LARGE UN MISSION. THE FRENCH SEE THE UN'S ROLE AS MINIMAL, SIMPLY BEING A PRESENCE TO URGE FOLLOW-UP TO DECISIONS MADE BY AFGHANS. 4. (C) WHEN ASKED ABOUT VEDRINE'S OCTOBER 10 MEETING WITH LAKHDAR BRAHIMI, BOURDON (PLEASE PROTECT) REPLIED THAT VEDRINE WAS "UP TO HIS USUAL TRICKS". HE EXPLAINED THE VEDRINE-BRAHIMI MEETING HAD BEEN A "TETE-A-TETE" AND VEDRINE DID NOT BOTHER TO BRIEF ANYONE IN THE MFA ABOUT THEIR CONVERSATION. BOURDON SAID THE ONLY THING HE KNEW CAME FROM ONE OF VEDRINE'S PROTOCOL OFFICERS WHO ESCORTED BRAHIMI TO THE MEETING. THE PROTOCOL OFFICER SAID BRAHIMI EXPRESSED THE VIEW THAT PAKISTAN WOULD NEED TO PLAY A ROLE IN REACHING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE AND ZAHIR SHAH'S SUPPORTERS. BRAHIMI ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY FOR THE PERSONNEL OF UN AGENCIES AND NGOS AFTER THE "U.S. DOES ITS JOB". BRAHIMI SAID HE SAW NO WAY TO PREVENT INSTABILITY AND HAD NO SUGGESTIONS REGARDING HOW TO CHANGE THIS. A MEMBER OF FM VEDRINE'S STAFF ADDED THAT BRAHIMI TOLD VEDRINE THAT HE WAS APPROCHING HIS NEW RESPONSIBILITIES WITH "NO PRECONCEPTIONS." LEACH
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