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| Identifier: | 04ANKARA4421 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 04ANKARA4421 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Ankara |
| Created: | 2004-08-06 13:17:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | ENRG EPET IR IZ KNNP PREL PTER TU |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 ANKARA 004421 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/05/2014 TAGS: ENRG, EPET, IR, IZ, KNNP, PREL, PTER, TU SUBJECT: TURKISH PM ERDOGAN'S JULY 27-29 VISIT TO IRAN Classified by CDA Robert Deutsch, E.O. 12958, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d). 1. (C) Summary: According to MFA and ruling AKP contacts, PM Erdogan urged the Iranians to cooperate with IAEA on their nuclear program. The visit failed to produce an agreement on an expanded project to transship Iranian natural gas: the Turks sought a price reduction on their 1996 gas deal with Iran, but the Iranians conditioned reduction on Turkish agreement to ship Iranian gas to Europe, which the Turks declined. The two sides will continue to negotiate on Iranian gas, with the AKP government more inclined to deal than the bureaucracy. The Iranians linked other commercial and economic deals to a gas agreement; when it fell through, so did they. End Summary. Erdogan Depicts Visit as Part of Effort to Reach Out to Neighbors 2. (C) PM Erdogan's July 27-29 visit to Iran was the first by a Turkish PM in 11 years. Erdogan met with President Khatami, First VP Aref, former President Rafsanjani, Islamic Advisory Council President Adel, FM Kharazi, and the Ministers of Defense and Oil. We spoke with AKP Vice Chair for Foreign Affairs Saban Disli, PM Erdogan Senior Foreign Policy Adviser Ahmet Davutoglu, and MFA DDG for South Asia Ergin Soner. While Disli spun the visit as a success, Soner dubbed it unsuccessful because of the failure to reach a gas agreement; Soner said the Turks' expectations for the visit were too high. 3. (C) Erdogan adviser Davutoglu downplayed the notion that the visit was extraordinary. He asserted it was instead a "normal" part of Erdogan's ongoing effort to reach out to Turkey's neighbors. This was Erdogan's public line on the visit. Davutoglu said the GOT set aside May through September as a time to focus on relations with its neighbors, pointing out that in that period Erdogan has also visited Bulgaria, Greece and Romania; he is scheduled to visit Georgia soon. Gas Deal Falls Through... 4. (C) Erdogan and his delegation pressed the Iranians hard to reduce gas prices under Turkey's 1996 agreement with Iran. According to Soner, the Turks initially asked for an 18% decrease, later lowering their request to 6%. The Iranians refused to consider any reduction unless Turkey agreed to a 50-year deal to export Iranian gas to Europe. Soner said the Turks estimate the deal the Iranians proposed would give Iran $150 billion in sales revenue; in return, the Iranians only proposed to give the Turks a "modest" transit fee. MFA Deputy U/S for Economics Alev Kilic said that such a deal would require significant infrastructure development and compete with the transit commitments for the Shah Deniz pipeline. Soner said the Iranians surprised the Turks by presenting them with a draft agreement for the deal. 5. (C) Soner said that Erdogan initially told the Iranians an agreement of this magnitude would take years to negotiate and he could not agree to it during this visit. However, as the visit progressed, Erdogan himself appeared to lean more toward signing the deal. In the end, Soner said, Erdogan was talked out of it both by MFA officials and his other advisers. Energy Minister Guler affirmed this account, telling us before the visit that he was fighting hard against Gul and Erdogan's interest in the deal and noting afterwards that he had expended maximal effort in Tehran to keep Erdogan from caving. In a last-ditch effort to reach agreement, Erdogan delayed his scheduled departure over five hours, but to no avail. 6. (C) Both Soner and Disli (who accompanied Erdogan) expressed displeasure at the Iranians' negotiating style on the gas question. Disli described the Iranians as "very stubborn" and "asking terrible things" during negotiations. Soner, who was not present but claimed to have been extensively briefed and read into the visit, characterized the Iranians as "maximalist" and "not pleasant." 7. (C) However, according to Soner, one Iranian official hinted that their delegation was not empowered to agree to anything absent a deal on gas to Europe, even though ongoing international arbitration on gas prices could result in a more substantial reduction than the Turks were asking. Soner interprets this a a sign that other Iranian officials behind the scenes dictated the Iranian negotiating position. 8. (C) Davutoglu told us Turkey and Iran will continue to negotiate on gas. Soner views the pipeline proposal as not in Turkey's interest because it undermines demand for gas from Turkey's Central Asian allies; is opposed by the U.S.; and could result in surplus gas supply which Turkey could not sell. Soner implied this is the MFA view, but told us the AK government does not share this view. Indeed, despite the failure to reach a deal, Disli asserted to us a pipeline will give Turkey "influence" over Iran. Davutoglu said Turkey will rely on the Shah Deniz pipeline and Central Asia for transiting gas to Europe, but he added that Turkey needs to diversify domestic gas supply sources. ... And So Do Other Ventures 9. (C) According to Disli and Soner, the Iranians linked other economic and commercial issues, including better access to Iran for Turkish companies, to agreement on gas export to Europe. The Turks opposed this approach and sought to negotiate each issue separately. Absent a gas deal, the Iranians refused to reconsider allowing the Turkish-Austrian consortium TAV to operate Khomeini International Airport. A July 29 Tehran press report quoted Iranian Deputy Security Minister Ahmadi as saying that Iran would not sign a security deal absent a gas agreement, although the GOI later backed off and signed. Iran's Nuclear Program 10. (C) Soner said the Turkish side "extensively" discussed Iran's nuclear program during the visit; Disli claimed Erdogan talked about it with every interlocutor. Although the Iranian press spun Erdogan's message as support for Iran's nuclear program, Disli, Soner and Davutoglu all told us that Erdogan's message was that the Iranians should work with the IAEA and EU-3. Erdogan told the Iranians pressure, including from the U.S., and resulting tensions, could escalate if the Iranians did not take the IAEA seriously. According to Soner, Erdogan encouraged the Iranians to make "complete" disclosures to the IAEA about their nuclear program. Davutoglu said Erdogan told the Iranians the Middle East should be a "nuclear free zone." The Iranians gave their stock reply that they are only developing nuclear power for peaceful energy purposes. Asked why a country rich in petroleum resources would want to do so, the reply was that Iran wants to use its petroleum resources for export revenue. 11. (C) Soner claimed the MFA bureaucracy and the TGS are convinced Iran is working to develop nuclear weapons, is playing for time, and that this is a serious problem for Turkey. However, Soner sees the AKP government as not sharing these concerns. Indeed, PM adviser Davutoglu told CDA that the nuclear issue affects Turkey only "indirectly" and asserted it is not a "hot bilateral issue" for Turkey. When CDA asked whether Davutoglu believes Iranian assertions that they are only developing nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, Davutoglu avoided the question, saying "it is difficult to believe anyone" on the nuclear issue, and turned the conversation toward Israel's nuclear capability. Davutoglu said there needs to be "stronger evidence" of Iran's intentions (alluding to the Iraq WMD allegations) and for now does not see it as Turkey's role to challenge the Iranian claim. Davutoglu added, without explanation, that "the IAEA needs to do more." Security Agreement 12. (C) The two sides signed a anti-terrorism agreement. The Iranians promised to prevent PKK members from transiting or operating in Iran, to share intelligence on the PKK, and to turn over PKK members to Turkey. Turkey promised to do the same with MEK members. The agreement does not give the Turks the right of hot pursuit of PKK members fleeing into Iran. Davutoglu and Disli portrayed the agreement as the most important achievement of the trip, but according to Soner, the two sides actually reached this agreement on the technical level in Ankara two weeks before Erdogan's visit. 13. (C) Soner estimated there are currently 1000-2000 PKK members in Iran. Both he and Disli attributed Iran's willingness to reach agreement on the PKK to the Iranians' professed recent problems with the PKK, including reported clashes between the PKK and Iranian security forces. Davutoglu said the absence of action against PKK/Kongra Gel facilities in Iraq makes cooperation with Iran and Syria essential to preventing infiltration of fighters into Turkey. Iranian Internal Politics 14. (C) Both Soner and Disli said the Turks' observations during the visit convinced them that conservatives are gaining the upper hand in government while Iranian society as a whole is becoming more liberal. Soner claimed the GOT intended the visit as support for "reformists" like Khatami. According to Soner, Khatami will visit Turkey at the end of September "this time for sure." He claimed Erdogan turned down an Iranian proposal that Supreme Leader Khamenei visit Turkey. 15. (C) Soner said Erdogan reiterated the need for reform, democracy, transparency and accountability in government, but the Iranian response was "weak." Khatami told Erdogan he has no base of support in the Iranian Parliament, which the Turks interpret as a sign that he is in a poor position to make reforms. Iraq 16. (C) On Iraq, both sides expressed support for Iraq's territorial integrity and equal distribution of resources, and support for the IIG's efforts to prepare the country for elections. Erdogan expressed concern for the situation in Kirkuk. Erdogan did not raise Iran's attempts at undue influence or questionable activities in Iraq. According to Davutoglu, Erdogan stressed that no county should have any ambitions in Iraq that would affect a peaceful transition to an elected government. However, Davutoglu expressed skepticism about Iranian sincerity on Iraq, adding his assessment that Iran believes it stands to benefit from internal chaos. 17. Minimize Considered. DEUTSCH
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