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| Identifier: | 04TELAVIV1689 |
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| Wikileaks: | View 04TELAVIV1689 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Tel Aviv |
| Created: | 2004-03-19 07:17:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL ECON IS GOI INTERNAL GAZA DISENGAGEMENT ISRAELI |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available. 190717Z Mar 04
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 001689 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/17/2014 TAGS: PREL, ECON, IS, GOI INTERNAL, GAZA DISENGAGEMENT, ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN AFFAIRS SUBJECT: TRANSPORT MINISTER LIEBERMAN SLAMS SHARON IN MEETING WITH AMBASSADOR Classified By: Ambassador Daniel C. Kurtzer for Reasons 1.4 (b,c) 1. (C) Summary. Transportation Minister and National Union leader Avigdor Lieberman on March 17: -- Called PM Sharon and his unilateral disengagement plan "a failure," which was not supported by the majority of Israelis and which appeared to give in to terror; -- Said the National Union would bolt the coalition should the Cabinet sign off on the plan; -- Claimed that forward movement towards peace with the Palestinians was not possible with Arafat in power; -- Said that the GOI's role in Negev development should be limited to current plans to construct a rail line from Tel Aviv to Dimona; -- Called the Israeli-Arabs the "key issue for Israel" and asked for U.S. ideas on how to work with them; -- Noted the GOI planned to upgrade transportation security in the wake of the recent Ashdod attack; -- Said that he had rescheduled his visit to the U.S. for late April, when he hoped to continue building on good bilateral transportation cooperation with Secretary Mineta; and -- Urged more U.S. companies to bid on the USD 8 billion in contracts under his ministry's authority. End Summary. --------------------------------------------- -- Unilateral Disengagement: Go Ahead, Make My Day --------------------------------------------- -- 2. (C) Lieberman, who had asked to see the Ambassador, savaged the Prime Minister and his unilateral disengagement plan: "Sharon has failed. On the roadmap, on Abu Mazen, on Tannenbaum, and now on the new plan." He said the plan came at the wrong time, both for Israel and for the U.S. At the very least, Sharon should have waited for the U.S. elections to pass. He claimed the PM faced intense opposition, within Likud, the Coalition, the Cabinet, and within Israeli society as a whole. "Sharon does not have a majority for the plan." As for his party, Lieberman stressed: "if the Cabinet approves the plan, the National Union will leave the government." 3. (C) Lieberman said his opposition stemmed from his belief that the Palestinians would view a withdrawal from Gaza as a victory for terror. "They will see it as weakness, not as an effort to compromise." Gaza settlement evacuation would also leave Israel exposed: "What if they target Ashkelon's power generation plants from north Gaza with Qassam rockets? That represents five percent of Israeli power generation." 4. (C) Lieberman asked for U.S. views of the plan. The Ambassador noted the USG was engaging closely with the GOI, and referred to the recent visits to Israel of Deputy NSA Hadley and A/S Burns. The Administration was interested in the Israeli ideas. Until we saw "the plan" in detail, however, the USG would not be able to take a position on it. He noted the concept of settlement evacuation had points in common with the President's vision for the region. Also, it could potentially increase security for Israel while testing Palestinian seriousness. The Ambassador also cautioned Lieberman not to underestimate the divisions within Palestinian society: "There are Palestinians who want a better life for themselves and want forward movement." ------------------------------------------ Lieberman: Get Rid of Arafat; Reform Palestinian Society; Bring in Egypt/Jordan ------------------------------------------ 5. (C) Lieberman claimed that forward movement was not possible with Arafat in power. "We need a partner. Until Arafat is out, it is impossible to negotiate. Abu Mazen made that clear." He said Arafat had no interest in a Palestinian state, but wanted to destroy "our state." He said that any solution involved Egypt and Jordan: "The Jordanian dynasty would have a serious problem with an independent Palestinian state." Aside from Arafat, necessary reform of Palestinian society would be complex and long-term. "The evolution in Palestinian society is very dangerous. Hamas is winning because it is the only organization that helps the people. The PA is corrupt; even Salaam Fayyad cannot control the situation." Lieberman outlined a three-step process to reform Palestinian society: 1. end terror; 2. reform the economy; 3. reform the society overall (politically, culturally and educationally). 6. (C) The Ambassador responded that Lieberman's ideas left few avenues for forward progress. He emphasized that, although the U.S. fully agreed with Israel that Arafat impeded the search for peace, eliminating him was not an option the U.S. supported. It would greatly complicate our regional efforts. --------------------------------------- Israel Needs to Make Choices, Including Improving Palestinian Living Conditions --------------------------------------- 7. (C) It was important that Israel face up to the hard choices it had to make going forward, the Ambassador stressed. Was it viable for Israel to maintain 225,000 settlers in the West Bank, many of whom were in the midst of areas densely populated by Palestinians? Was having 7,500 Gaza settlers live amongst 1.5 million Palestinians a wise idea? Although Israel should not take decisions "under fire", it should also not avoid facing the contradictions inherent in perpetuating the settler problem while simultaneously wanting to solve it by pulling out of Gaza. Israel could take two simple steps that would immediately improve the Palestinian economy: lift the back-to-back shipping requirement and improve freedom of movement for people. The resulting improvement could pay dividends for Israel. ------------------------------------ Making the Desert Bloom: Developing the Negev and the Galilee ------------------------------------ 8. (C) The Ambassador noted he had told Effie Eitam that, although they had agreed to disagree on settlements, he was still interested in Eitam's development efforts within Green Line Israel, such as in the Negev and Galilee. What was Lieberman's take? The Minister insisted the GOI should play only a limited and very specific role in these areas, with infrastructure development. The key was the newly planned railroad line to Dimona, which would reduce travel time to Tel Aviv to an hour and twenty minutes. As for the rest, "the market will do the job." ------------- Israeli-Arabs ------------- 9. (C) As the meeting drew to a close, a pensive Lieberman said "our key issue really is the Israeli-Arabs. What does the U.S. think?" The Ambassador said he thought Israeli-Arabs were burdened by leaders focused on everything but improving their constituents' daily life. Lieberman claimed the GOI "already invested more per capita in Israeli-Arabs than in other Israelis." The Ambassador said he would welcome receiving more information on this. ------------------ Transport Security ------------------ 10. (C) Responding to the Ambassador's question about how the GOI planned to increase transportation security in the wake of the Ashkelon bombing, Lieberman said his government would increase investments in new security equipment, starting at the Karni crossing. The GOI would also improve security in Israeli ports. ----------------- Visit to the U.S. ----------------- 11. (C) Lieberman noted he was rescheduling his planned visit the U.S. to meet his counterpart, Secretary of Transportation Mineta. It would probably take place at the end of April, and he requested the Ambassador alert him to any issues the Secretary was likely to raise. The Ambassador said he would SIPDIS do so. Lieberman stressed the good bilateral cooperation on transportation security issues. ------------ Trade Issues ------------ 12. (C) Lieberman said he was disappointed that more U.S. companies were not participating in tenders falling under his aegis. "I have USD 8 billion in tenders out there and I want U.S. companies." He said he was tired of just Siemens and Bombardier constantly competing for the same tenders -- there was not enough competition. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** KURTZER
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