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| Identifier: | 03THEHAGUE2636 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 03THEHAGUE2636 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy The Hague |
| Created: | 2003-10-16 11:57:00 |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Tags: | PREL EU TK NL |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 THE HAGUE 002636 SIPDIS EUR/SCC WESTON E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/14/2013 TAGS: PREL, EU, TK, NL SUBJECT: DUTCH PRIME MINISTER VISITS TURKEY Classified By: DCM Daniel Russel Reason 1.5 (b) 1. This is an action request for EUR/SCC Tom Weston. Please see para 9. 2. (C) Summary: Prime Minister Balkenende traveled to Istanbul and Ankara October 7-9 to discuss developments in Turkey's EU accession bid and Cyprus. Despite Turkish pleas, the Dutch made no promises on Turkey's EU candidacy. The Dutch confirmed that Turkey has made great legislative progress in working to fulfill the Copenhagen criteria, but also maintained that significant work on implementation remains. They encouraged the Turks to continue progress, especially in the judicial and human rights sectors. On Cyprus, the Dutch expected to hear positive signals from Foreign Minister Gul on the need to find a solution, but were disappointed. (Note: A decision on whether or not to set a date for Turkey to begin EU accession talks will occur during the Dutch EU presidency in the second half of 2004. End note.) End Summary. EU Accession -------------- 3. (C) Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and Foreign Minister Jaap de Hoop Scheffer visited Turkey October 7-9. MFA Turkish Desk Officer Lesley d'Huy, who traveled with the Ministers, confirmed that discussions revolved primarily around Turkish desires to obtain a date to begin EU accession talks during the Dutch EU presidency in the second half of 2004. Both the Turkish Prime Minister and President bluntly asked for Dutch support of Turkey's candidacy. PM Balkenende responded diplomatically that he could not pledge such support in advance of the November 5 EU Commission report on Turkish progress in meeting the Copenhagen criteria. However, d'Huy noted that the Ministers feel that Turkey is moving positively towards fulfilling the legislative requirements. While the Turks assert they have fulfilled "all of the political requirements of the Copenhagen criteria," d'Huy noted that the Commission report will highlight a few areas, primarily in the judicial sector and regarding human rights, which still require progress. However, she opined that these areas will be overcome. The main problem remains implementation. Both Prime Minister Balkenende and Foreign Minister de Hoop Scheffer reinforced the importance of sincere implementation of Copenhagen criteria. The Dutch will carefully watch to see if new reforms, especially those concerning human rights, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and those in the judicial sector, are adequately implemented throughout the next twelve months. Sezer - What Else? ------------------- 4. (C) Turkish President Sezer was blunt with the Dutch, asking PM Balkenende if Turkey could count on the EU to set a date for accession talks if all implementation requirements are met. He wanted to know - "what other excuses might the EU create to prohibit Turkish accession?" PM Balkenende dodged the question by making a joke with regards to the number of Dutch soccer players playing on Turkish teams. However, D'Huy commented that Sezer's question highlighted the Turkish fear that the EU will not allow Turkish membership in any form, choosing instead to be a Judeo-Christian union. PM Balkenende later dismissed the idea of a link/hidden agenda that the EU would refuse membership on religious grounds. To put Sezer's fears further to rest, he underscored that in his view a reference to religion (Judeo-Christian) in the European constitution would recognize where and how the union was originally founded, and not determine the future of the union. D'Huy stated that while fear of a Muslim state has been and will likely continue to be an issue for some Europeans, such an outlook is dwindling. NGOs Play a Role in Assessing Implementation --------------------------------------------- 5. (C) In Istanbul on October 8, the Ministers met with local NGOs. One individual in particular, a Protestant man, strongly affected the Ministers as he described that he could neither be properly buried nor erect a church in which to worship in Turkey. Both PM Balkenende and FM de Hoop Scheffer brought this man's story to the attention of the Turkish Prime and Foreign Ministers. PM Balkenende used it as an example of how far implementation has yet to go. He cautioned that if such scenarios did not change and such a story were told on TV in the Netherlands, any Parliamentary and public support for Turkish accession would evaporate. D'Huy stated that in general, the Dutch felt that the Turks were not pursuing implementation in human rights areas actively enough. While their official line was "just tell us the problem, we'll ensure that it is fixed," the Dutch were looking for a more proactive stance. In particular they felt that State Minister Mehmet Aydin was too dismissive of remaining problems. The Dutch will likely meet again with NGOs in spring 2004, when a visit of MFA State Secretary for European Affairs Atzo Nicolai is tentatively planned. Cyprus - A Negative Change of Attitude? ---------------------------------------- 6. (C) Foreign Minister de Hoop Scheffer met privately with Foreign Minister Gul. The Dutch FM hoped for reassurances by FM Gul, building upon Gul's recent positive statements, on the need to find a permanent solution to the Cyprus situation. However, the Dutch FM left empty-handed. Gul was silent, not commenting on nor stating that a solution must be found before May 2004. FM de Hoop Scheffer noted that a lack of solution on Cyprus by 2004 could hurt Turkey's accession bid; however, Gul again was not responsive. The Dutch are now concerned that this may be a change from the recent positive statements made by Gul, and that finding a Cyprus solution is not an immediate objective of the Turkish government. D'Huy opined that perhaps the Turks believe that if they can get an EU accession date without settling the Cyprus question, all the better domestically. When asked by PolOff if the Dutch would oppose granting a date to Turkey without such a solution, d'Huy stated that it was not really for the GoNL to decide. If Cyprus and Greece could live with such an outcome, the GoNL would not oppose. Nevertheless, d'Huy commented that opening accession talks with Turkey when it does not officially recognize a member state would complicate matters. Other Issues: Afghanistan, NATO, Iraq ----------------------------------------- 7. (C) In a meeting with President Sezer, Prime Minister Balkenende thanked Turkey both for allowing Dutch forces engaged in Afghanistan to use Turkish bases, as well as for Turkish support of Dutch FM de Hoop Scheffer for NATO SYG. Following the announcement by the Turkish Parliament to send Turkish troops to Iraq and the subsequent initial reaction of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC), d'Huy reported that Turkish interlocutors told the Dutch that they desired to remain out of any emerging conflict between the CPA and the IGC. The Turks stated they had done what was needed in approving the deployment of troops; the CPA would now have to decide where and when, if at all, to use such troops. The issue of the PKK and PKK member Nuriya Kesbir was also broached by the Dutch. Overall Outlook ----------------- 8. (C) Comment: The Dutch tell us privately that EU member states may be moving closer to setting a date for Turkish accession talks in December 2004. D'Huy stated that Germany and Luxembourg, two previous hardliners against Turkish membership, are more positive following meetings this spring. Prime Minister Balkenende's comments during the meetings demonstrate he does not personally oppose Turkish membership in the EU. Nevertheless, the Dutch will reserve any public statements in favor of accession at this time to keep the prssure on Turkey and for domestic political reasons. Domestically, several members of the PM's Christian Democrats (CDA) party strongly oppose Turkish membership. CDA Floor Leader Maxime Verhagen has stated that he does not see Turkish membership for the time being, and that Turkey should not count on getting an date during the Dutch EU Presidency. Balkenende's coalition partner, Deputy Prime Minister Zalm, has taken an even tougher line, at one point likening Turkey's accession to the U.S. admitting Mexico as the 51st state. Parliamentary discussion will heat-up when Prime Minister Erdogan's visits the Hague in spring 2004. FM-designate Ben Bot, a former Ambassador to Turkey, is known to be more favorably disposed to Turkish accession. End Comment. 9. Action request: The Dutch MFA has expressed interest in U.S. views on Cyprus, particularly Turkey's approach. Post suggests that a briefing in the Hague by SCC Weston would be very welcome by the GoNL. End Action request. RUSSEL
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