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| Identifier: | 03ANKARA5787 |
|---|---|
| Wikileaks: | View 03ANKARA5787 at Wikileaks.org |
| Origin: | Embassy Ankara |
| Created: | 2003-09-12 06:34:00 |
| Classification: | UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY |
| Tags: | PARM ETTC PREL KSTC TU |
| Redacted: | This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks. |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
UNCLAS E F T O SECTION 01 OF 02 ANKARA 005787 SIPDIS SENSITIVE DEPT FOR NP/ECC AND EUR/SE, ENERGY FOR SLD AND NA-25, COMMERCE FOR CUPITT, DHS/BCP FOR SAUNDERS E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/11/2013 TAGS: PARM, ETTC, PREL, KSTC, TU SUBJECT: EXBS: SEPTEMBER 11 MEETING WITH TURKEY ON EXBS LEGAL AGREEMENT REF: STATE 251735 Sensitive but Unclassified. 1. (SBU) Summary: An interagency team led by NP/ECC Director van Son met with Turkish MFA and the Turkish interagency on September 11 to negotiate the proposed EXBS legal agreement so that planned EXBS assistance programs can commence. The Turkish and U.S. teams concentrated their discussions on the most difficult articles for Turkey to accept, i.e. status of personnel, claims, inspections and audits, and taxes. The Turks made clear that any framework legal agreement involving their interagency must be approved by the Turkish Parliament, and that if these four articles as proposed initially by the U.S. were included, the agreement would not be approved by the Turkish Parliament. The U.S. team noted that the United States needed a legally binding agreement and an exemption from Turkish taxation, but indicated that it might be willing to drop the article on status of personnel given the nature of the proposed assistance and the short time U.S. personnel would be in Turkey. The U.S. team also agreed to reexamine the language in the article on inspections and audits, but insisted on acceptance of the principle of allowing the U.S. to examine the end use of any assistance provided in order to ensure it was being used in accordance with purpose for which it was provided. Turkey accepted the U.S. requirement for the article on taxation and agreed in principle that an audit provision would be helpful, but with revised language in the latter. Turkey agreed that the proper format would be a legally binding agreement as opposed to a non-binding MOU. The U.S. team promised to forward a revised text of the legal agreement ASAP based on the discussions. End Summary. 2. (SBU) The participants of the meeting on the U.S. side were: Paul van Son (Head of Delegation), Director of the Office of Export Control Cooperation in the Bureau of Nonproliferation (NP/ECC); Mariju Bofill (NP/ECC); Alice Kottmyer (L), Erik Deschler (DOE/SLD); and Pam Tremont (Embassy Pol/Mil). The participants on the Turkish side were: Bulent Tulun (Head of Delegation), Minister Plenipotentiary, Deputy General Director for Arms Control, Disarmament, and OSCE, Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Bulent Meric, Head of Department, Deputy General Directorate for Arms Control, Disarmament and OSCE, Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Aykut Kumbaroglu, First Secretary, Deputy General Directorate for Arms, Control, Disarmament and OSCE, Ministry of Foreign Affairs; Recep Guven, Head of Department, General Directorate for Security, Ministry of Interior; Ali Riza Oktay, Head of Department, and Miss Gulay Tanriyapisi, Undersecretariat for Foreign Trade; Mehmet Guzel, Head of Department, and Baris Demirel, Undersecretariat for Customs; and Hayri Akbiyik and Ufuk Yavuz, Turkish Atomic Energy Agency. 3. (SBU) Tulun began the meeting by noting the significance of remembering today's date, September 11, and the importance of nonproliferation and export controls in a post-September 11 world. He then outlined the Government of Turkey's (GOT) membership in all of the nonproliferation agreements and export control regimes, and said that as a NATO Ally, the GOT was highly concerned about proliferation by their "neighbors of concern." Following his brief on Turkish nonproliferation policy, he stated why the proposed agreement with articles on status of personnel, claims, inspections and audits, and taxes would not be accepted by the GOT as presently proposed (Ref A). He was particularly concerned with the language using the term "inspection," likening it to arms control inspections such as the CFE inspections. Tulun also made the general observation that the agreement appeared to lack reciprocity, in his words, "Language referring to the United States says 'intends' while language referring to Turkey says, 'shall.'" 4. (SBU) Van Son responded to Tulun by addressing each of the articles in question. He began by explaining the need for an article exempting the U.S. from Turkish taxation because of Congressional requirements, and the Turkish side accepted that requirement. On status of personnel, Tulun said that military personnel would be covered by the NATO status of forces agreement while in Turkey and that civilian personnel could be attached to the Embassy and notified to the MFA if immunities were needed. The MFA would not question the Embassy on this point. Van Son indicated that because of the nature of the proposed assistance and the short time U.S. personnel would be in Turkey, attachment of these TDY personnel to the Embassy would be an unlikely event. Van Son agreed that after reviewing the nature of the assistance to be provided this article could probably be deleted. 5. (SBU) Van Son stated that while the U.S. could reexamine the language in the article on inspections and audits, it would insist on acceptance of the principle of allowing the U.S. to examine the end-use of any assistance provided in order to ensure granted equipment used in accordance with the purpose for which it was intended. On claims, van Son explained that while the U.S. again could proceed without the article, the amount of assistance to be provided might be reduced by the cost of premiums required for insurance coverage. This would mean fewer funds available for assistance. Also, there was a general principle involved that the country receiving assistance should not make claims against the government of the country that was providing the assistance. Tulun agreed with that general principle, but several times during the course of the discussions pointed out that it was the value of the cooperation of the parties that mattered most, rather than the actual amount of the money involved. The U.S. team concurred with the importance of the cooperation and pointed to this as one of the reasons why an overarching State-MFA legal agreement was important. Implementing arrangements and MOUs between agencies of the respective governments could, if needed, be made under the umbrella of the legal agreement. Tulun concurred. 6. (U) The U.S. team promised to forward a revised text of the legal agreement ASAP based on these discussions. The U.S. team has cleared this cable. EDELMAN
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