US embassy cable - 73TEHRAN2077 (comparison)

AUDIENCE WITH SHAH APRIL 5 (comparison)

Identifier: 73TEHRAN2077
Wikileaks: View 73TEHRAN2077 at Wikileaks.org
Origin: Embassy Tehran
Created: 1973-04-02 08:34:00
Classification: SECRET
Tags: PFOR IR PK XF
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P 020834Z APR 73
FM AMEMBASSY TEHRAN
TO SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 1692
INFO AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD PRIORITY
=== Original (unredacted) version ====== Wikileaks (redacted) version ===
S E C R E T TEHRAN 2077 
 
Declassified/Released US Department of State EO Systematic Review 30 JUN 2005 
 
C O R R E C T E D C O P Y ( FIRST PARAGRAPH AND PARA. 2.) 
 
E. O. 11652: GDS 
TAGS: PFOR, IR, PK, XF 
SUBJECT: AUDIENCE WITH SHAH APRIL 5 
 
REF: STATE 053670 
 
SUMMARY: AFTER APRIL 5 PRESENTATION OF CREDENTIALS 
EXPECT HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH SHAH. I PLAN 
LISTEN BUT IF SUBJECT OF PAKISTAN AND SHAH' S CONCERNS 
REGARDING US/ USSR NEGOTIATIONS COME UP THIS 
WILL BE GOOD OCCASION TO PASS ON ANY THOUGHTS WE 
HAVE REGARDING PAKISTAN AS BHUTTO ARRIVING TEHRAN 
APRIL 7 AND TO REASSURE SHAH TOTAL ERA OF NEGOTIATION 
WITH MOSCOW DOES NOT IN ANY WAY IMPLY LESSENING OF 
TIES WITH IRAN. END SUMMARY. ACTION REQUESTED: 
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE BY OPEN OF BUSINESS APRIL 4 
SUMMARY OF OUR ECONOMIC AID TO PAKISTAN IN LAST 18 
MONTHS, HIGHLIGHTS OF RECENTLY REVISED ANNOUNCED ARMS 
POLICY TO PAKISTAN AND ANY OTHER POINTS DEPT OR ISLAMABAD 
THINK USEFUL TO PASS TO SHAH REGARDING BHUTTO VISIT. 
 
1. ON MORNING APRIL 5 I WILL BE PRESENTING MY CREDENTIALS 
TO SHAH. THIS OCCASION TOGETHER WITH SEVERAL OTHER 
AUDIENCES BEING SCHEDULED FOR APRIL DURING VISITS OF 
DEPSEC RUSH AND GENERALS GOODPASTER AND RYAN WILL 
PROVIDE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TO SHAH MESSAGES OR 
THOUGHTS WE MAY HAVE ON: ( A) US/ IRANIAN RELATIONS, 
( B) DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD AND, ( C) ROLE 
IRAN CAN PLAY IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO OUR MUTUAL ADVANTAGE. 
 
2. AT PRESENTATION OF CREDENTIALS CEREMONY SHAH' S CUSTOM 
IS TO TAKE AMBASSADOR ASIDE AFTER CEREMONIALS FOR PRIVATE 
CONVERSATION. THIS BEING MY FIRST OFFICIAL MEETING 
WITH SHAH AS AMBASSADOR, MY INTENTION IS TO LISTEN TO 
WHAT SHAH HAS TO SAY. I ANTICIPATE SHAH, AS IS HIS CUSTOM, 
WILL TAKE ME ON ONE OF HIS " TOUR D' HORIZONS". WITH 
BHUTTO EXPECTED IN TOWN APRIL 7, PAKISTAN WILL UNDOUBTEDLY 
COME UP. SHAH WILL PROBABLY CHIDE US FOR NOT HELPING 
BHUTTO ADEQUATELY. IF SO, I PLAN REMIND SHAH OF ALL WE 
HAVE DONE ECONOMICALLY FOR PAKISTAN IN LAST YEAR OR SO 
AND OF RECENT DECISION TO LIFT ARMS EMBARGO ON NILITARY 
ITEMS FROZEN IN PIPELINE SINCE 1971. TO THIS END WOULD 
APPRECIATE HAVING BY MORNING APRIL 4 LOCAL TIME BREAKDOWN 
OF ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE TO PAKISTAN FOR LAST 18 MONTHS AND 
MAIN POINTS OF OUR PRESENT ARMS POLICY TOWARDS PAKISTAN 
AND INDIA. 
 
3. IN ADDITION GIVEN SHAH' S CLOSE RELATIONS WITH 
BHUTTO AND INFLUENCE ON PAK PRESIDENT, ARE TTHERE ANY 
POINTS REGARDING PAKISTAN WHICH DEPT OR ISLAMABAD THINK 
I COULD USEFULLY PUT TO SHAH FOR HIS TALKS WITH BHUTTO. 
 
4. WE HAVE ALSO NOTED ZAHEDI' S DESCRIPTION OF SHAH' S 
CONCERNS, WE BELIEVE THIS TO REFLECT SHAH' S WORRY OVER 
TREND OF EVENTS IN THIS AREA WHICH HE CONSIDERS HOSTILE 
TO IRANIAN INTERESTS AND HIS NEED FOR PERIODIC REASSURANCE 
THAT HE IS NOT ISOLATED, THAT HE CAN COUNT ON 
CONTINUED US INTEREST IN IRAN AND THAT ANY DETENTE 
ACHIEVED BETWEEN US AND USSR WILL NOT WORK TO IRAN' S 
DISADVANTAGE. 
 
5. IF SUBJECT COMES UP I PROPOSE MAKE SAME POINTS AS 
DEPSEC RUSH MADE TO ZAHEDI AND ASSURE HIM THAT WE 
HAVE NOT AND WOULD NOT DISCUSS IRAN/ US RELATIONS WITH 
USSR WITHOUT IRAN' S FULL KNOWLEDGE. 
 
6. FINALLY, AT APPROPRIATE TIME I SHALL MENTION 
PRESIDENT' S DEEP INTEREST IN HAVING SHAH AND EMPRESS 
PAY OFFICIAL VISIT TO WASHINGTON DURING 1973. 
 
 
HELMS 
S E C R E T TEHRAN 2077 
 
Declassified/Released US Department of State EO Systematic Review 30 JUN 2005 
 
C O R R E C T E D C O P Y ( FIRST PARAGRAPH AND PARA. 2.) 
 
E. O. 11652: GDS 
TAGS: PFOR, IR, PK, XF 
SUBJECT: AUDIENCE WITH SHAH APRIL 5 
 ...


50133  2006-01-19  06THEHAGUE131  Embassy The Hague  CONFIDENTIAL    C O N F I D E N T I A L THE HAGUE 000131   SIPDIS   SIPDIS   STATE FOR EUR/UBI, EUR/RPM, SA   E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/19/2016  

TAGS: PREL, PGOV, MAAR, NL, AF  

SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/ISAF: PARLIAMENTARY TRIP CANCELED;  LABOR PARTY SHIFTING (SLOWLY)    

Classified By: Charge D'Affaires Chat Blakeman,  reasons 1.4 (b,d)   

1. (C) Summary: The Dutch parliament on January 18 called off  a fact-finding mission to Afghanistan citing security  concerns and time constraints. The decision is not expected  to have a significant impact on the upcoming debate on Dutch  participation in ISAF III. The opposition Labor Party (PvdA)  continues to raise questions about the proposed mission, but  support for the mission within the party appears to be  growing. PvdA Faction Leader Wouter Bos told Charge January  19 that the PvdA is not yet -- but could be -- convinced to  support the mission.   

Parliamentary Trip Canceled  
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2. (C) MFA Deputy Head for Conflict Prevention Joop Nijssen  told Polmiloff January 19 that Parliament opted to cancel the  proposed fact-finding trip to Afghanistan because it would  have little added value in the upcoming parliamentary  debate. Nijssen said the MFA and MOD had arranged a  whirlwind schedule involving one day in Kabul and another in  Kandahar, and were prepared to fly interlocutors from Uruzgan  to discuss the security situation. Nijssen said several  parliamentarians insisted on physically visiting Uruzgan, to  which the GONL declined due to logistical problems.  Nijssen acknowledged the MFA was not particularly upset the  trip had been canceled; security concerns played a key role  in turning down the request to visit Uruzgan.   

3. (C) Parliament hopes to invite experts from NATO and  Afghanistan to participate in the January 30 hearing, thereby  obviating the need for the trip. Moreover, parliamentarians  could use the additional time to prepare for the debate,  Nijssen said. Several parliamentarians -- including Labor  Party (PvdA) spokesman Koenders and CDA spokesman Ormel --  said during a January 17 dinner that they were not enthused  about a trip unless they could visit Uruzgan, and were  confident they could receive the requisite information during  the hearing to make an informed decision.   

Support Building in PvdA  
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4. (C) Several members of the opposition Labor Party (PvdA)  have expressed their willingness -- with caveats -- to  support the ISAF III mission. In an interview with the  left-of-center Amsterdam daily newspaper Parool on January  18, Michiel van Hulten (the newly elected party chairman)  described the ISAF III deployment as the kind of mission  that the PvdA supports but cautioned that questions remain  about whether the significant reconstruction would be  achievable given the security situation and the degree of  separation between ISAF and OEF. According to van Hulten,  the PvdA will gladly go if the mission is sound.   

5. (C) In a meeting with Polcouns on January 18, PvdA Defense  Spokesman Frans Timmermans assessed that support for the  mission within active PvdA membership currently stood at  about 80 percent. (Note: This is much higher than we have  heard from other sources. End note.) Timmermans stressed  that this support was fragile, and could quickly evaporate if  it appeared that the Dutch would not be able to conduct  significant reconstruction work in Uruzgan and/or if the  mission could not be disentangled from OEF. While many in  the party, including those in the traditional left, could  support the deployment on moral and humanitarian grounds,  some also saw the current debate as an opportunity to  embarrass and possibly bring down the current government and  would argue against the deployment for that reason.  Timmermans added that PvdA Parliamentary Faction Leader  Wouter Bos had not yet made up his mind on the issue; once he  did, the rest of the party would fall in line.   

6. (C) Charge and Polcouns met with Wouter Bos and Koenders  on January 19. After hearing Charge's arguments in favor of  the Dutch deployment, Bos expressed sympathy for the  principles of the mission and noted that there was  significant support for it within the party. The PvdA,  however, would not rush to make a decision until all views  had been aired and questions answered. Bos described himself  as not yet convinced about the mission but did not rule out  possible PvdA support. Koenders also expressed support for   the principles of the mission, but reiterated the PvdA's  concerns about keeping OEF and ISAF operations distinct.    

Comment  
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7. (C) PvdA has played the Stage III question cautiously, but  continues to keep an open mind. While the news of their  possible receptivity to the mission is encouraging, PvdA is  not yet sold and we still expect an uphill battle in  Parliament.   BLAKEMAN 

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