|Wikileaks:||View 05THEHAGUE2044 at Wikileaks.org|
|Origin:||Embassy The Hague|
|Tags:||PREL PHUM EPET NA NL VZ|
|Redacted:||This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks.|
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S E C R E T THE HAGUE 002044 SIPDIS WHA FOR PDAS CHARLES SHAPIRO E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/01/2015 TAGS: PREL, PHUM, EPET, NA, NL, VZ SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/VENEZUELA: DUTCH FM THINKING TOUGH ON CHAVEZ Classified By: Charge Chat Blakeman for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d). 1. (C) FM Bot told the Ambassador on July 20 he would welcome a briefing by WHA PDAS Charles Shapiro on August 23 or 24 as part of the Netherlands increasing engagement on Venezuela. He made clear that he wanted to be helpful on Venezuela and is willing to adopt a strengthened posture, including taking a leadership role inside the EU. In a separate conversation with the Ambassador, DG for Political Affairs Hugo Siblesz, Bot's senior political advisor, emphasized that the Dutch are looking for "visible meetings between the U.S. and the GoNL to underscore the fact that we are engaged together on Venezuela." 2. (C) The Dutch are not enthusiastic about meeting Chavez face to face now. Bot said that should Chavez visit Europe, he was not interested in meeting with him. Siblesz, confirmed there is no visit planned now and said similarly that the Dutch would meet Chavez only under "extraordinary circumstances" and only if were in Europe on other business. Any such meeting, Siblesz added, would be at the FM, not PM, level. Bot said he hoped to visit Venezuela in October, along with Colombia, the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. 3. (C) In separate discussions with the Ambassador on July 21, General Dick Berlijn, Chief of the Defense Staff, said he would also welcome a USG briefing for the MOD. Berlijn noted that the recent deployment of F-16s to Aruba was the first deployment for the Dutch in that theater. He told the Ambassador that in the future the GoNL could consider sending submarines to the Caribbean to assist in counternarcotics work. He added that the Dutch want to work with other countries to put forces into the region as needed in this regard, including brown water assets. BLAKEMAN
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