US embassy cable - 02ROME2982

DRC PRESIDENT KABILA SUPPORTS NEW REWARDS FOR JUSTICE PROGRAM

Identifier: 02ROME2982
Wikileaks: View 02ROME2982 at Wikileaks.org
Origin: Embassy Rome
Created: 2002-06-19 08:20:00
Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Tags: PREL PHUM KJUS CG CF RW IT ICTR
Redacted: This cable was not redacted by Wikileaks.
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

C O N F I D E N T I A L ROME 002982 
 
SIPDIS 
 
DEPT FOR AF/C AND S/WCI, DRL 
 
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/13/2012 
TAGS: PREL, PHUM, KJUS, CG, CF, RW, IT, ICTR 
SUBJECT: DRC PRESIDENT KABILA SUPPORTS NEW REWARDS FOR 
JUSTICE PROGRAM 
 
REF: STATE 11370 
 
CLASSIFIED BY: ACTING POLITICAL MINISTER COUNSELOR GARY ROBBINS FOR REA 
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SONS 1.5(B),(D) 
 
1. (C) SUMMARY.  DRC PRESIDENT JOSEPH KABILA SAID THE NEW 
REWARDS FOR JUSTICE IN RWANDA PROGRAM (REFTEL) HAS 100 
PERCENT OF HIS PERSONAL SUPPORT, AS WELL AS THAT OF THE 
GOVERNMENT, BUT HE ADDED THAT THE PROGRAM MUST LEAD TO 
RWANDA'S WITHDRAWAL FROM THE DRC OR IT WON'T SUCCEED.  END 
SUMMARY. 
 
2. (C) WHILE IN ROME FOR THE FAO SUMMIT, KABILA MET WITH 
AMBASSADOR-AT-LARGE FOR WAR CRIMES PIERRE PROSPER AND DR. 
JENDAYI FRAZIER (NSC) ON JUNE 13 TO DISCUSS THE RECENTLY 
LAUNCHED REWARDS FOR JUSTICE IN RWANDA PROGRAM.  AMBASSADOR 
PROSPER URGED KABILA TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE, WHICH FOCUSES 
ON NINE TO FIFTEEN KEY SUSPECTS INDICTED FOR GENOCIDE BY THE 
ICTR, AS A MEANS OF REMOVING RWANDA'S EXCUSE FOR OCCUPYING 
PARTS OF THE DRC.  AFTER OFFERING HIS FULL SUPPORT, KABILA 
CAUTIONED THAT HIS PEOPLE MAY NOT TAKE THE IDEA SERIOUSLY. 
KABILA STATED THAT HIS PEOPLE WOULD ALSO WANT TO SEE 
ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE MILLIONS OF CONGOLESE DEATHS OVER THE 
PAST FEW YEARS IN THE EASTERN CONGO, INCLUDING THOSE WHO DIED 
IN KISANGANI ONLY WEEKS AGO.  HE ENCOURAGED AMB. PROSPER TO 
BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS HE WOULD ENCOUNTER 
FROM AVERAGE CITIZENS OR THE PROGRAM WOULD LOSE CREDIBILITY. 
OUR PRIORITY IS TO SEE RWANDA OUT OF OUR COUNTRY, KABILA 
STRESSED. 
 
3. (C)  BOTH AMB. PROSPER AND DR. FRAZIER EMPHASIZED THAT THE 
PROGRAM IS ONE PART OF A MULTIFACETED APPROACH TO RESTORING 
STABILITY IN THE REGION.  IF THIS LEADERSHIP GROUP CAN BE 
REMOVED FROM THE EQUATION, RWANDA WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO 
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CLAIM THAT A SECURITY THREAT EXISTS THAT WARRANTS ITS 
OCCUPATION OF PARTS OF THE DRC.  THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY 
CAN THEN PRESSURE RWANDA TO WITHDRAW.  KABILA COMMENTED THAT 
HE WOULD PREFER MILITARY PRESSURE TO POLITICAL PRESSURE FOR 
SUCH A COMPLICATED PROBLEM, BUT REAFFIRMED HIS SUPPORT FOR 
THE REWARDS PROGRAM.  HE INVITED AMB. PROSPER TO PRESENT THE 
PROGRAM IN KINSHASA THE SECOND WEEK IN JULY.  AMB. PROSPER 
ADDED THAT HE HAD MET WITH RWANDAN PRESIDENT KAGAME ABOUT THE 
PROGRAM AND HAD EXPLAINED THAT A RWANDAN WITHDRAWAL WAS A 
PRINCIPAL OBJECTIVE. 
 
4. (C) KABILA ASKED HOW THE INITIATIVE WOULD BE COORDINATED 
WITH THE ICTR.  AMB. PROSPER EXPLAINED THAT HE HAD MET WITH 
CARLA DEL PONTE AND INVESTIGATOR WALPIN, AND HAD SET UP A 
TASK FORCE IN KENYA TO RESPOND TO LEADS ON ONE OF THE 
PRINCIPAL INDICTEES, KABUGA. A SIMILAR SET-UP WAS ENVISIONED 
FOR KINSHASA, WITH AN AMERICAN LINKED TO ARUSHA AND WORKING 
WITH THE CONGOLESE TO FOLLOW UP ON TIPS. 
 
5. (C) KABILA SAID A SOLUTION WAS NEEDED FOR THOSE RWANDESE 
BEING HELD IN KAMINA AND THE FOOT SOLDIERS.  AMB. PROSPER 
OFFERED THAT THE REWARDS PROGRAM WOULD HELP HERE TOO BY 
"CUTTING OFF THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE," LEAVING LOWER-LEVEL 
SOLDIERS.  AMB. PROSPER NOTED THAT RWANDAN OFFICIALS HAVE 
SAID THAT RWANDA WILL ACCEPT THE REPATRIATION OF THESE FOOT 
SOLDIERS ONCE THE LEADERS INDICTED BY THE ICTR HAVE BEEN 
APPREHENDED.  WHEN PRESSED BY KABILA AS TO HOW LONG IT WOULD 
TAKE, AMB. PROSPER REPLIED THAT KABILA'S HELP WITH 
APPREHENDING THE INDICTEES WAS CRUCIAL; WORKING TOGETHER, 
WITH THE ICTR, MONUS AND OTHER ENTITIES, TO TAKE THEM INTO 
CUSTODY WOULD TAKE A "REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, NOT YEARS," 
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AMB. PROSPER ESTIMATED.  HE STRESSED, HOWEVER, THAT THE 
ACTUAL APPREHENSION WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY THE DRC. 
APPREHENDING THE LEADERS WOULD NOT RESULT IN RWANDA'S 
WITHDRAWAL FROM THE DRC THE NEXT DAY, DR. FRAZIER ADMITTED, 
BUT IT WOULD BE A KEY ELEMENT IN THE OVERALL EFFORT TO END 
THE CONFLICT AND WOULD BRING TREMENDOUS INTERNATIONAL 
PRESSURE ON RWANDA TO WITHDRAW FROM THE DRC. 
 
6. (C) IN TALKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PRESS FOLLOWING THE 
MEETING, AMB. PROSPER NOTED KABILA'S SUPPORT FOR THE REWARDS 
PROGRAM, AND STRESSED THE NEED TO ENSURE THESE EFFORTS LEAD 
TO A RWANDAN WITHDRAWAL FROM THE DRC.  HE MENTIONED KAGAME 
HAD ALSO EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THE INITIATIVE, AND EMPHASIZED 
THAT IT WOULD TAKE A TEAM EFFORT TO SUCCEED IN BRINGING THE 
INDICTEES TO JUSTICE.  IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION ABOUT MONUC, 
KABILA TOLD THE PRESS THAT THE REUNIFICATION OF THE DRC IS 
THE PRIORITY - ANYTHING THAT ISN'T MOVING TOWARD THAT IS A 
WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. 
 
7. (U) THIS CABLE HAS BEEN CLEARED BY AMBASSADOR PROSPER. 
SEMBLER 
 
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